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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: No credit history
« Reply #720 on: January 20, 2013, 01:05:18 PM »
I agree the SP wasn't the best move but I'm asking why not go for the cap1 which has a very high success rate for first cards over your suggestion of a secured card with an annual fee
Not saying its better option just imho secured is garantee and no inq. Imho worth $50 also crap one is the devil.. If you mess up...

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Re: Credit card for older relative with Thin credit file best way to go?
« Reply #721 on: February 07, 2013, 03:49:42 PM »
I manage the accounts for a relative with little credit history. They have had a target credit card for about 6 months. I also added them as a joint cardholder on one of my account. How long should they wai before applying? What card would you recommend (for a 1st timer)? In October 2012 I their cedit score was 724 but they still di not get approved for Freedom card because of too little history. (They have been living outside the U.S. for over 40 years)
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Re: Credit card for older relative with Thin credit file best way to go?
« Reply #722 on: February 07, 2013, 06:34:57 PM »
To quote meshug "cap1 journey"

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Re: Credit card for older relative with Thin credit file best way to go?
« Reply #723 on: February 07, 2013, 10:41:35 PM »
Huh?
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Re: Credit card for older relative with Thin credit file best way to go?
« Reply #724 on: February 07, 2013, 10:44:32 PM »
Huh?

A very easy card for someone with zero credit history to get approved for is the capital one journey card

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Re: Credit card for older relative with Thin credit file best way to go?
« Reply #725 on: February 09, 2013, 09:32:47 PM »
I thought its better to avoid Capital One cuz they pull from all 3 agencies. Also I would really like to get them a card with a decent signup bonus.
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Re: Credit card for older relative with Thin credit file best way to go?
« Reply #726 on: February 13, 2013, 04:42:50 PM »
So far they are a Joint Cardholder for about 3 months. Is that ling enough to give a bump to their score?
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Re: Credit card for older relative with Thin credit file best way to go?
« Reply #727 on: February 14, 2013, 01:22:24 PM »
United signature requires $5k and non signature -same benefits- $500, they approved me with $1k
There are 2 seperate United Cards? Signature and non-signature?
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Building credit for those who cant get a credit card
« Reply #728 on: April 09, 2013, 04:45:39 PM »
I keep getting rejected for the most basic credit cards ( store, regular etc.) Are there any recommended Pre-Paid Credit cards I can get in order to build credit so i can get credit cards.
Does anyone know that order i should follow?

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Re: Building credit for those who cant get a credit card
« Reply #729 on: April 09, 2013, 05:48:49 PM »
I keep getting rejected for the most basic credit cards ( store, regular etc.) Are there any recommended Pre-Paid Credit cards I can get in order to build credit so i can get credit cards.
Does anyone know that order i should follow?
Apply for a secured credit card. It's fairly easy to get approved for one. (You are given a credit limit based on a security deposit, and the deposit limits the company's exposure if you don't pay your bill)

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Re: Building credit for those who cant get a credit card
« Reply #730 on: April 10, 2013, 12:12:28 AM »
I keep getting rejected for the most basic credit cards ( store, regular etc.) Are there any recommended Pre-Paid Credit cards I can get in order to build credit so i can get credit cards.
Does anyone know that order i should follow?
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Re: Building credit for those who cant get a credit card
« Reply #731 on: April 10, 2013, 09:16:30 AM »
Apply for a secured credit card. It's fairly easy to get approved for one. (You are given a credit limit based on a security deposit, and the deposit limits the company's exposure if you don't pay your bill)
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This is what i had to do when i first wanted to get one.
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Re: Building credit for those who cant get a credit card
« Reply #732 on: April 10, 2013, 11:09:46 AM »
cap1 gives a card pretty easy

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Re: Building credit for those who cant get a credit card
« Reply #733 on: April 10, 2013, 11:12:00 AM »
cap1 gives a card pretty easy

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I know plenty of people who got approved for the journey card after failing to get approved for many other cards

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Re: Building credit for those who cant get a credit card
« Reply #734 on: April 10, 2013, 02:19:33 PM »
cap1 gives a card pretty easy
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Re: Building credit for those who cant get a credit card
« Reply #735 on: April 10, 2013, 02:23:21 PM »
Rather than burn 3 pulls on Crap1 just become an AU and get a valuable store card like Gap or Target IMHO before getting a card like SPG or Freedom.

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Re: Building credit for those who cant get a credit card
« Reply #736 on: April 10, 2013, 02:28:03 PM »
Rather than burn 3 pulls on Crap1 just become an AU and get a valuable store card like Gap or Target IMHO before getting a card like SPG or Freedom.

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Re: Building credit for those who cant get a credit card
« Reply #737 on: April 10, 2013, 02:32:42 PM »
Rather than burn 3 pulls on Crap1 just become an AU and get a valuable store card like Gap or Target IMHO before getting a card like SPG or Freedom.

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But as I think bubbles once asked....a person getting a cap1 card has no credit. So that means he probably won't be applying for another card for at least ~6 months. By that time does it make that much of a difference he got 3 pulls for building his credit?
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Re: Building credit for those who cant get a credit card
« Reply #738 on: April 10, 2013, 02:42:22 PM »
But as I think bubbles once asked....a person getting a cap1 card has no credit. So that means he probably won't be applying for another card for at least ~6 months. By that time does it make that much of a difference he got 3 pulls for building his credit?
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When I first applied for a card i got declined by everyone. I didn't care how many pulls I had because I knew that if no one would approve me I would have to get a secured card and hold onto it for 6 months before applying for a regular card, and to get a secured card it wouldn't matter how many pulls I had.

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Re: Building credit for those who cant get a credit card
« Reply #739 on: April 10, 2013, 02:44:29 PM »
AU is not sufficient. You need to be either an individual account holder or a joint.
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But as I think bubbles once asked....a person getting a cap1 card has no credit. So that means he probably won't be applying for another card for at least ~6 months. By that time does it make that much of a difference he got 3 pulls for building his credit?
Besides for only costing 1 pull, a Gap or Target card is much more useful that Cap1 in the long-haul.
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