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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3140 on: June 30, 2015, 04:08:43 PM »
After you close a card, does that credit limit, get put back into your "available credit" for a new card? Does that help your chances of an auto approval the next time you apply for a card? if yes, how long does it take for the credit to go back?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3141 on: June 30, 2015, 04:11:17 PM »
After you close a card, does that credit limit, get put back into your "available credit" for a new card? Does that help your chances of an auto approval the next time you apply for a card? if yes, how long does it take for the credit to go back?
The credit line gets lost unless if you shift it to a different card first.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3142 on: June 30, 2015, 04:11:40 PM »
After you close a card, does that credit limit, get put back into your "available credit" for a new card? Does that help your chances of an auto approval the next time you apply for a card? if yes, how long does it take for the credit to go back?
I do not believe it is an official thing, but people believe that may help you when applying again. Assuming the banks allot you a certain number, putting that credit back in (or some of it) will help.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3143 on: June 30, 2015, 05:00:13 PM »
So there is no way to apply for two cards with one pull anymore?
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« Reply #3147 on: June 30, 2015, 05:07:55 PM »
So what did I do wrong
You didn't do anything wrong. Many have been having that issue when applying for 2 "credit" cards. If you would've applied for 2 charge cards or 1 credit & 1 charge card you wouldn't have had that.

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« Reply #3148 on: July 01, 2015, 01:04:56 AM »
I do not believe it is an official thing, but people believe that may help you when applying again. Assuming the banks allot you a certain number, putting that credit back in (or some of it) will help.
Is that the consensus on the forums or is that a big machlokes amongst the forum gedolim?

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« Reply #3149 on: July 06, 2015, 12:10:52 PM »
I am looking for the best International Business Card.
Features Required: No Forex Fees, Able to take out $5k from ATM internationally, and possibly insurance.

I have tried the Card comparison wiki and the links were not helping. I have checked around the forums but cannot find the information I am looking for.

Thank you for the help,
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« Reply #3150 on: July 06, 2015, 12:12:26 PM »
I am looking for the best International Business Card.
Features Required: No Forex Fees, Able to take out $5k from ATM internationally, and possibly insurance.

I have tried the Card comparison wiki and the links were not helping. I have checked around the forums but cannot find the information I am looking for.

Thank you for the help,
Ink? Don't know about 5K but I would expect that u should be able to....

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« Reply #3151 on: July 06, 2015, 12:14:10 PM »
Ink? Don't know about 5K but I would expect that u should be able to....
Thanks, can you set up your business TIN for a personal card like the Saphirre Pref also or not recommended?
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« Reply #3152 on: July 06, 2015, 12:22:29 PM »
Thanks, can you set up your business TIN for a personal card like the Saphirre Pref also or not recommended?
I have a friend that put on his secondary card the business name as the card holders name... If that helps

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3153 on: July 06, 2015, 12:44:00 PM »
Can I use the same EIN to apply for the same ink card again ? If yes, will Recon make a bigger issue since the number has a card associated with it already ?
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« Reply #3154 on: July 06, 2015, 12:44:33 PM »
I have a friend that put on his secondary card the business name as the card holders name... If that helps
Thank you fro the info.
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« Reply #3155 on: July 06, 2015, 12:49:24 PM »
Can I use the same EIN to apply for the same ink card again ? If yes, will Recon make a bigger issue since the number has a card associated with it already ?
Don't no but maybe apply with diff name and change it after

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« Reply #3156 on: July 06, 2015, 12:52:06 PM »

Don't no but maybe apply with diff name and change it after
I don't quite understand. I should apply using the EIN under a diff. Name and then change it to my name ( don't think that's possible ), or did you mean the business name ?
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« Reply #3157 on: July 06, 2015, 12:54:00 PM »
I don't quite understand. I should apply using the EIN under a diff. Name and then change it to my name ( don't think that's possible ), or did you mean the business name ?
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« Reply #3158 on: July 06, 2015, 12:54:37 PM »
Just wanted to make sure of something. If I have a balance of 2k on the closing date of my ink statement, it will not reflect my credit utilization on my cr because it is a business card and is not reported to trw, experian or equifax? Is that a true statement?

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« Reply #3159 on: July 06, 2015, 12:56:30 PM »

Just wanted to make sure of something. If I have a balance of 2k on the closing date of my ink statement, it will not reflect my credit utilization on my cr because it is a business card and is not reported to trw, experian or equifax? Is that a true statement?
Yes.