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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3580 on: January 26, 2016, 07:53:23 AM »

Why isn't it easy to get added as an authorized user? Store cards tend to have low limits and not much value. With those low limits, he'll be using a large percentage of his credit, which is bad for his score. Once you're getting a card, get one you'd want to have anyways. Discover it.
Also which It card are we referring to? Which is recommended?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3581 on: January 26, 2016, 07:54:31 AM »
He can still make sure he pays off his balance in full before statement closes. I would definitely ALSO try to get added as AU somewhere but don't see why he can't go for a low limit card. Might be even worth trying to go for a freedom. I have heard people with success when trying to build credit and getting approved.
Freedom rejected him last year. He's not neccesarily in it for the money or points, just maturely building credit. Do you agree that he should skip the store card and go straight for the Discover It card?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3582 on: January 26, 2016, 07:59:44 AM »

Freedom rejected him last year. He's not neccesarily in it for the money or points, just maturely building credit. Do you agree that he should skip the store card and go straight for the Discover It card?

Must have missed the part about the freedom reject. Again- I think he can go the store route but will need to make sure what david said doesn't happen aka carrying large balances. That ain't gonna help. He can try for the discover card as well.

These thing are all connected; money, points etc is all based on a good and strong credit profile. That is why the credit threads are taken seriously. Because they matter.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3583 on: January 26, 2016, 08:03:38 AM »
Must have missed the part about the freedom reject. Again- I think he can go the store route but will need to make sure what david said doesn't happen aka carrying large balances. That ain't gonna help. He can try for the discover card as well.

These thing are all connected; money, points etc is all based on a good and strong credit profile. That is why the credit threads are taken seriously. Because they matter.
Completely agree. I will advise him on the difference between statement date vs due date as Dan recommends as well. I have no concerns of him not being responsible about it.
Taking this into account, do you encourage the store route or the Discover It route? If the Discover route, which card (travel, cash, even secured etc.)?
Thanks!

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« Reply #3584 on: January 26, 2016, 08:29:31 AM »
Completely agree. I will advise him on the difference between statement date vs due date as Dan recommends as well. I have no concerns of him not being responsible about it.
Taking this into account, do you encourage the store route or the Discover It route? If the Discover route, which card (travel, cash, even secured etc.)?
Thanks!
Discover route . Any of them. You can also go for a capital one journey or quicksilver . I've applied for many people that didn't have their own credit cards and got them the CO JOURNEY  and a few people the quicksilver. Don't do store cards . It's a waste of time.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3585 on: January 26, 2016, 08:32:24 AM »
Or go the secured way

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3586 on: January 26, 2016, 09:28:02 AM »
Discover route . Any of them. You can also go for a capital one journey or quicksilver . I've applied for many people that didn't have their own credit cards and got them the CO JOURNEY  and a few people the quicksilver. Don't do store cards . It's a waste of time.
But then remember its 3 pulls

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3587 on: January 26, 2016, 09:30:01 AM »
Discover route . Any of them. You can also go for a capital one journey or quicksilver . I've applied for many people that didn't have their own credit cards and got them the CO JOURNEY  and a few people the quicksilver. Don't do store cards . It's a waste of time.
So you think any of the Discover credit (not secured) cards has a high probability of approval?
I have always advised people to avoid CO because of the 3 pull. It seems most DDFers agree to that, I'm gathering you think that that is an overrated sentiment? Thanks!

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3588 on: January 26, 2016, 09:31:18 AM »
Or go the secured way
Thanks for the the input. Is this as opposed/better then the Discover route? And which secured card would you recommend if you prefer this method?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3589 on: January 26, 2016, 10:03:41 AM »
But then remember its 3 pulls
Thanks. You think Discover is the way to go then?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3590 on: January 26, 2016, 10:32:14 AM »
Thanks. You think Discover is the way to go then?
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3591 on: January 26, 2016, 10:34:49 AM »
I've always adviced my friends starting to build credit to go with CO, and not Doscover; IME Discover doesn't always approve people without previous credit, whereas CO always approves on their student cards.
Re the 3 pulls, I don't see why it matters to someone building credit, since they presumably won't be applying for anything else for at least half a year, if not more.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3592 on: January 26, 2016, 11:15:22 AM »
I've always adviced my friends starting to build credit to go with CO, and not Doscover; IME Discover doesn't always approve people without previous credit, whereas CO always approves on their student cards.
Re the 3 pulls, I don't see why it matters to someone building credit, since they presumably won't be applying for anything else for at least half a year, if not more.
Thanks. He isn't a student though and they have stable income.

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« Reply #3593 on: January 26, 2016, 11:21:23 AM »
Thanks. He isn't a student though and they have stable income.
They aren't limited to students, it's just their "beginner" cards (like Journey).
What do you mean by "they have stable income"?
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3594 on: January 26, 2016, 11:24:49 AM »
I've always adviced my friends starting to build credit to go with CO, and not Doscover; IME Discover doesn't always approve people without previous credit, whereas CO always approves on their student cards.
Re the 3 pulls, I don't see why it matters to someone building credit, since they presumably won't be applying for anything else for at least half a year, if not more.

The day I received my SSN I was approved for Discover. If that doesn't indicate no prior credit history is required im not sure what would  :o

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3595 on: January 26, 2016, 11:26:12 AM »
I've always adviced my friends starting to build credit to go with CO, and not Doscover; IME Discover doesn't always approve people without previous credit, whereas CO always approves on their student cards.
Re the 3 pulls, I don't see why it matters to someone building credit, since they presumably won't be applying for anything else for at least half a year, if not more.
-1 I've had ppl that were excepted to discover and not co and some co and not discover. I would like to also put wells Fargo on the table... If u get a bank account with them they could help lots with getting u a card... (I just opened a account with them and they have been begging me to open a card with them...)

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3596 on: January 26, 2016, 11:29:27 AM »
Alright, I guess it's clear that YMMV.  :P
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #3597 on: January 26, 2016, 11:38:12 AM »
Alright, I guess it's clear that YMMV. 
Sure is though being a secondary helps a bit...

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« Reply #3598 on: January 26, 2016, 11:43:59 AM »


Sure is though being a secondary helps a lot...

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« Reply #3599 on: January 26, 2016, 12:37:05 PM »
So you think any of the Discover credit (not secured) cards has a high probability of approval?
I have always advised people to avoid CO because of the 3 pull. It seems most DDFers agree to that, I'm gathering you think that that is an overrated sentiment? Thanks!
The three pull is at times overated. I've learned alot from our freinds that have joined us from CB and have learned a lot on CB itself.  however its worth it to get your first credit card. It's a card much easier to get. I would say to ignore any discouraging folks and go for it....and let us know what happens :)