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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #800 on: April 11, 2013, 10:03:35 AM »
you seem to know a lot about AUs, can you explain way youd want to have a closed and an open acount as AU? is it that 2 is better then one? in that case shuld i get added on to 3 or 4 cards as AU (providing of course that they have good credit?
If you are just starting out get added to as many cards as you can. You want ones in good standing and long credit history.

You can't be added as an AU to a card if you already are an AU for that card. That is where the trick comes in. It gives you two accounts that will both count towards your length of credit history for your FICO score. Your goal is you want to get instant approvals so unwanted eyes do not look at your report.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #801 on: April 11, 2013, 10:07:30 AM »
If you are just starting out get added to as many cards as you can. You want ones in good standing and long credit history.

You can't be added as an AU to a card if you already are an AU for that card. That is where the trick comes in. It gives you two accounts that will both count towards your length of credit history for your FICO score. Your goal is you want to get instant approvals so unwanted eyes do not look at your report.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #802 on: April 11, 2013, 10:49:46 AM »
What is a good income to write down? What companies if any ask for verification of income?

I know many noobs write down for say a gap card they make $5K a year and wonder why they were denied...
+1 I actually had a funny story with my bro. He tells me he tried to get approved for CCs, but gets denied everytime, so I start asking him how he filled out his app and he tells me by income he put 0 bec he gets paid cash  :o   ::) . Needless to say I applied for a card for him that night and he got an instant approval.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #803 on: April 11, 2013, 10:50:51 AM »
+1 I actually had a funny story with my bro. He tells me he tried to get approved for CCs, but gets denied everytime, so I start asking him how he filled out his app and he tells me by income he put 0 bec he gets paid cash  :o   ::) . Needless to say I applied for a card for him that night and he got an instant approval.
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« Reply #805 on: April 11, 2013, 10:51:45 AM »
+1 I actually had a funny story with my bro. He tells me he tried to get approved for CCs, but gets denied everytime, so I start asking him how he filled out his app and he tells me by income he put 0 bec he gets paid cash  :o   ::) . Needless to say I applied for a card for him that night and he got an instant approval.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #806 on: April 11, 2013, 10:52:57 AM »
Can anyone post wiki? I don't see the changes spoken about here addressed

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #807 on: April 11, 2013, 11:00:24 AM »
Can anyone post wiki? I don't see the changes spoken about here addressed

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #811 on: April 11, 2013, 12:25:53 PM »
So my wife has no credit.. Got denied on 2 cards but don't remember which..
I had her aply for the us has advantage card.. From what I remember it was the easiest card to get (it was my first card..) but I don't see anyone here mentioning it..
Is there a reason for that?
Is it worse then cap1?
Was that a mistake??

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #812 on: April 11, 2013, 12:32:10 PM »
personally i would stay far away from cap1. I would quicker advise you to do a discover student (IT) card
Makes sense.
5% categories and just 1 pull sounds more useful than Cap1.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #813 on: April 11, 2013, 12:32:26 PM »
So my wife has no credit.. Got denied on 2 cards but don't remember which..
I had her aply for the us has advantage card.. From what I remember it was the easiest card to get (it was my first card..) but I don't see anyone here mentioning it..
Is there a reason for that?
Is it worse then cap1?
Was that a mistake??
The points aren't worth as much as other points.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #814 on: April 11, 2013, 12:34:46 PM »
Worse points then gap etc?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #815 on: April 11, 2013, 12:36:51 PM »
Well b"h she got accepted! So what should I do now to build up credit?
1-still worth it to add her as au on my old (Hilton ) amex card? (Only one besides business spg)..
2- should she apply for a gap card as well
3- how long till aply for good card- like chase saphire

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #816 on: April 11, 2013, 01:05:10 PM »
Well b"h she got accepted! So what should I do now to build up credit?
1-still worth it to add her as au on my old (Hilton ) amex card? (Only one besides business spg)..
2- should she apply for a gap card as well
3- how long till aply for good card- like chase saphire
1. Yes
2. It's another card on her history, but also another pull. Up to you.
3. 6-12 months, IME. Use Credit Sesame and Credit Karma to get a general idea of her credit score.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #817 on: April 11, 2013, 01:08:24 PM »
2. It's another card on her history, but also another pull. Up to you.


Thanks!
Is another card going to help her score go up faster/better??

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #818 on: April 11, 2013, 01:08:48 PM »
Also I called a few month back to make her a au on chase card- they said no such thing on personal cards- only business ! Does that make sense?? Is it accurate?? 

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #819 on: April 11, 2013, 01:16:15 PM »
Also I called a few month back to make her a au on chase card- they said no such thing on personal cards- only business ! Does that make sense?? Is it accurate??

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