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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
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« Reply #841 on: April 12, 2013, 12:36:21 AM »
Shouldn't make a diff.
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« Reply #842 on: April 12, 2013, 02:27:00 AM »
Shouldn't make a diff.
Thanks! Anyone have an idea how long after getting this gap non visa would you apply for a reg chase card? (My Guess would be 3 months)

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #843 on: April 12, 2013, 02:31:34 AM »
Thanks! Anyone have an idea how long after getting this gap non visa would you apply for a reg chase card? (My Guess would be 3 months)
If it's from scratch usually takes 6 months of spending a small utilization ratio to build up a decent credit history. But obviously YMMV
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #844 on: April 12, 2013, 10:10:10 AM »
This all sounds nice but take me. I have a citi dividends for roughly 6 months now (maybe 5.5) and got denied for freedom sapphire. CS is in 750's.

Age :20
Reported: $40,000 income

Reason for denial:I HUCA'd but responses were all "not enough credit history" 1 person even said "chase needs 2 years of credit history"

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« Reply #845 on: April 12, 2013, 10:13:50 AM »
This all sounds nice but take me. I have a citi dividends for roughly 6 months now (maybe 5.5) and got denied for freedom sapphire. CS is in 750's.

Age :20
Reported: $40,000 income

Reason for denial:I HUCA'd but responses were all "not enough credit history" 1 person even said "chase needs 2 years of credit history"

Best thing to do IMO  is get someone with a longer history to open a joint account wit you.
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« Reply #846 on: April 12, 2013, 11:01:35 AM »
This all sounds nice but take me. I have a citi dividends for roughly 6 months now (maybe 5.5) and got denied for freedom sapphire. CS is in 750's.

Age :20
Reported: $40,000 income

Reason for denial:I HUCA'd but responses were all "not enough credit history" 1 person even said "chase needs 2 years of credit history"

Had a citi dividend for around 5 months (plus 2 amex AU's)and got an SP and IP. HUCA?

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« Reply #847 on: April 12, 2013, 04:32:56 PM »
Had a citi dividend for around 5 months (plus 2 amex AU's)and got an SP and IP. HUCA?


I HUCA'd and SM'd no luck

New development: got denial letter in mail today reason for denial was: too many requests for credit...I filled out the forms and clicked submit all within 10 seconds of each other... Did 3 BM with freedom sapphire and ink bold. Either 2 is too much or they registered it as 3....

How much does age play a role in this?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #848 on: April 12, 2013, 04:34:11 PM »

I HUCA'd and SM'd no luck

New development: got denial letter in mail today reason for denial was: too many requests for credit...I filled out the forms and clicked submit all within 10 seconds of each other... Did 3 BM with freedom sapphire and ink bold. Either 2 is too much or they registered it as 3....

How much does age play a role in this?
How many apps have you had prior to the app-o-rama (i.e. pulls over last few months)?
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #849 on: April 12, 2013, 04:41:05 PM »
Afaik just 1 for the citi card back in October.

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« Reply #850 on: April 12, 2013, 06:25:49 PM »
Good news! I HUCA'd one more time and was approved for freedom. With $1,000 CL. Making small talk afterwards and said there was no way he would approve for SP. because that's a minimum of $5,000 CL. I guess he was just taking my word regarding the freedom  :D

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #851 on: April 12, 2013, 06:36:55 PM »
Good news! I HUCA'd one more time and was approved for freedom. With $1,000 CL. Making small talk afterwards and said there was no way he would approve for SP. because that's a minimum of $5,000 CL. I guess he was just taking my word regarding the freedom  :D

Made my weekend!!

Let this be another lesson! Always HUCA !!

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« Reply #852 on: April 12, 2013, 06:40:52 PM »
Let this be another lesson! Always HUCA !!

IMO the reason it worked was because I had a reference number from the denial letter. And the letter provided a different reason of denial than what the reps were providing me up until now.

When I called instead of hearing why I was denied I started by asking why I had too many inquiries and if that's the case can we do something about it. Approve 1 not 3...

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« Reply #853 on: April 13, 2013, 05:56:05 PM »
IMO the reason it worked was because I had a reference number from the denial letter. And the letter provided a different reason of denial than what the reps were providing me up until now.

When I called instead of hearing why I was denied I started by asking why I had too many inquiries and if that's the case can we do something about it. Approve 1 not 3...
now try getting another 1 approved. :D

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« Reply #854 on: April 13, 2013, 09:11:27 PM »
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« Reply #856 on: April 14, 2013, 07:25:50 AM »
Better earlier than later...
Yea but ppl working on a weekend just may be less friendly and less willing to bend the rules a little.

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« Reply #857 on: April 14, 2013, 08:34:21 AM »
Yea but ppl working on a weekend just may be less friendly and less willing to bend the rules a little.
-1 people are often in a good mood on weekends, plus you can sympathize with them which is an insisint in.

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« Reply #858 on: April 14, 2013, 08:37:46 AM »
-1 people are often in a good mood on weekends, plus you can sympathize with them which is an insisint in.

The friendliest rep I ever spoke to was on new years eve.

It's all YMMV
So they are not in a good mood on the weekend or else way would you need to sympathize with them. :)

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« Reply #859 on: April 14, 2013, 08:44:09 AM »
So they are not in a good mood on the weekend or else way would you need to sympathize with them. :)
I stated how either way it can work to your advantage. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
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