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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #960 on: May 10, 2013, 11:36:08 AM »
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #961 on: May 10, 2013, 11:37:56 AM »
if I apply for a cc and I am an AU on a card and they owe $1000 but it's not past due will it effect me getting accepted? Also in general when I apply to a cc do I need to make sure I owe $@??

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #962 on: May 10, 2013, 11:40:16 AM »
if I apply for a cc and I am an AU on a card and they owe $1000 but it's not past due will it effect me getting accepted? Also in general when I apply to a cc do I need to make sure I owe $@??
First of all, it depends what the credit line is on that card. If the balance owed is a small percentage of the CL, then its okay.

Second of all, it depends on your income.

If you put down that you make $50k a year, and you have $35k in outstanding debt, its not going to be good. (Even if your utilization rate is low)

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #963 on: May 10, 2013, 11:41:16 AM »
if I apply for a cc and I am an AU on a card and they owe $1000 but it's not past due will it effect me getting accepted? Also in general when I apply to a cc do I need to make sure I owe $@??

It depends on the credit line, if it's $1000 owed out of $5000 credit line, that's 20% for that card. But, really in utilization ratio the take all cards into consideration and divide amount owed / credit line. They say that utilization of 0 or 0% is bad for score, but that is prob difficult to do unless you have very few cards.


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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #965 on: May 10, 2013, 11:46:08 AM »
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #966 on: May 10, 2013, 12:11:16 PM »
I was not aware of that. Still, IME, the Journey is the way to go.

But that's cap 1. And 3 pulls...what about discover IT?

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« Reply #967 on: May 10, 2013, 02:48:14 PM »
Its not 3 pulls, its one pull on each report, which isn't such a big deal for a beginner.
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« Reply #968 on: May 10, 2013, 02:54:31 PM »
But that's cap 1. And 3 pulls...what about discover IT?
Discover It has 5% rotating categories which makes it a good choice.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #969 on: May 10, 2013, 02:59:53 PM »
Discover It has 5% rotating categories which makes it a good choice.

Thanks! Appreciate it. I'll get on it as well hopefully by starting her our early on she won't have problems when she wants to start applying for more

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #970 on: May 10, 2013, 03:56:41 PM »
It depends on the credit line, if it's $1000 owed out of $5000 credit line, that's 20% for that card. But, really in utilization ratio the take all cards into consideration and divide amount owed / credit line. They say that utilization of 0 or 0% is bad for score, but that is prob difficult to do unless you have very few cards.
so should I make sure I don't pay off my bill before applying?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #971 on: May 12, 2013, 12:02:48 AM »
Isn't it recommended to not close you first card?
If so, what should one do with a Secure Card (as a first card)?
Also, is a Secure Card at Apple Bank good? (Im already a customer there)
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« Reply #972 on: May 12, 2013, 12:05:07 AM »
Most banks allow you to change a secure card to a regular credit card after a certain period of time.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #973 on: May 12, 2013, 12:07:05 AM »
so should I make sure I don't pay off my bill before applying?

If this is your only card with a balance and you want to keep utilization low then pay the bill BEFORE the end of cycle. If you believe in theory that 0 utilization is bad for credit score then leave over a few dollars (example $100 owed out of $5000 credit line is 2% and) they say anything under 20% is good.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #974 on: May 12, 2013, 12:07:53 AM »
Isn't it recommended to not close you first card?
If so, what should one do with a Secure Card (as a first card)?
It mainly matters if it's your oldest card, and has some years on it. Either way, even closed cards stay on you credit report for 7 years after closing and count towards your average history. So, b'kitzur, just make sure your first actual CC has no AF.

Also, is a Secure Card at Apple Bank good? (Im already a customer there)
I don't think it makes much of a difference which bank it is from. Unless, as Mesh pointed out, you wanna later convert it to a no-AF CC, so ask them their policy vis-a-vis that.

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« Reply #975 on: May 12, 2013, 12:13:43 AM »
Ah. I think i got it.
Does it make a difference in which bank my oldest card is?
And whats AF?
Thanks!
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« Reply #976 on: May 12, 2013, 12:16:42 AM »
Does it make a difference in which bank my oldest card is?
Not AFAIK.

And whats AF?
Annual Fee. You don't wan't to be stuck paying a yearly fee on your first card, being too hesitant to close it.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #977 on: May 12, 2013, 12:26:59 AM »
How often can one apply for cards?
In same bank?
Diff bank? Like chase and then amex or citi

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« Reply #978 on: May 12, 2013, 12:29:24 AM »
Ok. Thanks.
So hows this?
I open a Secure Card at Apple, if they have a non-AF card, fine. If not my next card will have to be my "first", and i'll close the Apple one totally. Sound good?
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« Reply #979 on: May 12, 2013, 12:36:25 AM »
Ok. Thanks.
So hows this?
I open a Secure Card at Apple, if they have a non-AF card, fine. If not my next card will have to be my "first", and i'll close the Apple one totally. Sound good?
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