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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1120 on: June 08, 2013, 09:35:20 PM »
If I get approved instantly for a credit card does that mean there was no hard pull?
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1121 on: June 10, 2013, 05:35:45 PM »
What's the number of Chase cards you can have at one time before they star giving you a hard time about applying for more? (I don't mean the most you can apply for at one time)

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1122 on: June 10, 2013, 05:41:58 PM »
What's the number of Chase cards you can have at one time before they star giving you a hard time about applying for more? (I don't mean the most you can apply for at one time)
Maybe 10+ but just offer to close an old one and you should be fine.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1123 on: June 10, 2013, 05:45:24 PM »
Maybe 10+ but just offer to close an old one and you should be fine.
Just saw your chase line up plans for 6BM. You think 10+ for mortals too?

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« Reply #1124 on: June 10, 2013, 05:47:19 PM »
Just saw your chase line up plans for 6BM. You think 10+ for mortals too?
If they ever give you a problem just offer to close an old card. The problem starts when you currently have the card you are applying for, or recently had the same card they may not want to approve you again for that card.

The other aspect is how many cards they allow you to open in a period of time, but that's a different question than total cards allowed.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1125 on: June 10, 2013, 10:29:51 PM »
Bit of a random question here. I was working for a camp and they made an AMEX business card with my name but under their acct. As far as i know they had none of my info besides my name and DOB. Will this card affect my credit if there are late payments etc.?
Not sure if this info is relevant, but I am not US (if you cant tell by my name lol), though I do have a partially secured BoA CC.

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« Reply #1126 on: June 11, 2013, 04:35:45 AM »
Bit of a random question here. I was working for a camp and they made an AMEX business card with my name but under their acct. As far as i know they had none of my info besides my name and DOB. Will this card affect my credit if there are late payments etc.?
Not sure if this info is relevant, but I am not US (if you cant tell by my name lol), though I do have a partially secured BoA CC.
CV claims Amex holds AUs accountable. Didn't get a chance to look it up yet.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1127 on: June 11, 2013, 07:22:46 AM »
If they ever give you a problem just offer to close an old card. The problem starts when you currently have the card you are applying for, or recently had the same card they may not want to approve you again for that card.

The other aspect is how many cards they allow you to open in a period of time, but that's a different question than total cards allowed.
They told me they don't let you open more then 2 in 30 days but that's obviously not true. I was wondering how to get around the same card issue. I have the SP mastercard and would now like to get the visa.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1128 on: June 11, 2013, 01:59:01 PM »
They told me they don't let you open more then 2 in 30 days but that's obviously not true. I was wondering how to get around the same card issue. I have the SP mastercard and would now like to get the visa.
SP are near impossible to have one opened with one existing. Your best chance is closing your current one, but you will lose having a MC, and you may not even be approved for the new one. So you have to decide for yourself if it is worth it for you.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1129 on: June 11, 2013, 02:06:09 PM »
Is there a list anywhere in the forums of how long you have to wait after closing each card to get the sign up bonus again? If not maybe we can put one together.

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« Reply #1130 on: June 11, 2013, 02:18:54 PM »
Is there a list anywhere in the forums of how long you have to wait after closing each card to get the sign up bonus again? If not maybe we can put one together.
There is not because the banks don't have a list themselves it is all YMMV for the most part.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1131 on: June 11, 2013, 02:48:35 PM »
What's the general time frame for the chase united and the citi aa cards?

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« Reply #1132 on: June 11, 2013, 02:51:38 PM »
What's the general time frame for the chase united and the citi aa cards?
UA- best to wait 30 days from closing until you reapply (though, you don't have to).
Citi AA - 12-18 months.

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« Reply #1133 on: June 11, 2013, 05:13:57 PM »
UA- best to wait 30 days from closing until you reapply (though, you don't have to).
Citi AA - 12-18 months.
Just 30 days for United? I'm assuming with a different FFN each time. How many  times can I do that till they catch on?

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« Reply #1134 on: June 11, 2013, 08:36:19 PM »
Just 30 days for United? I'm assuming with a different FFN each time. How many  times can I do that till they catch on?
till they Catch on  ;D

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1135 on: June 14, 2013, 08:05:16 AM »
When do the 3 months for the sign up bonus start? From when the card is activated or from approval?

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« Reply #1136 on: June 14, 2013, 09:24:25 AM »
From approval.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1137 on: June 16, 2013, 10:20:55 AM »
Is it harder to get a business card (as opposed to a regular card)?
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« Reply #1138 on: June 16, 2013, 06:44:03 PM »
Is it harder to get a business card (as opposed to a regular card)?
they defiantly ask more questions

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1139 on: June 16, 2013, 07:21:22 PM »
Quick question.. if i use GC or AP to meet a spending threshold do i need to wait till the bill comes or can i put that $1000 or whatever and pay the bill before it even comes. or will this not give me the signup miles??