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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1160 on: June 22, 2013, 11:04:09 PM »
Is it a problem if i pay my business credit card with a personal checking account ?

Also could I link my wife's personal checking account to my business credit card (Or My personal )?

With The bank this is no problem at all.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1161 on: June 25, 2013, 12:30:07 AM »
Yes, you should close your statement with less than 10% credit utilization and at least one dollar spent.
I screwed up.
I let the statement close with most of the CL used.
1.How bad is the damage? (it was my first ever statement)
2.What can I do to fix it?
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1162 on: June 25, 2013, 12:39:18 AM »
I screwed up.
I let the statement close with most of the CL used.
1.How bad is the damage? (it was my first ever statement)
2.What can I do to fix it?
1. Damage for this month - maybe (so you prob shouldn't applly for anything new this month)
2. Pay off before next statement. At that point your credit score is a whole new calculation AFAIK and if anything it will work in your favor as building credit is as simple (and apparently hard for most ppl) as borrowing money and paying back.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1163 on: June 25, 2013, 04:25:55 AM »
I screwed up.
I let the statement close with most of the CL used.
1.How bad is the damage? (it was my first ever statement)
2.What can I do to fix it?
1. Over-utilization doesn't do any long-term damage.
2. Don't do it again :)

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1164 on: June 25, 2013, 01:33:40 PM »
If I use up most of my CL but pay it back right away (before the statement closes) is it a problem?

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« Reply #1165 on: June 25, 2013, 01:41:09 PM »
If I use up most of my CL but pay it back right away (before the statement closes) is it a problem?
Not really, some credit bureaus may check in middle of the month, but almost always it is the end that matters. But try and leave a few dollars when the statement closes.

$0 out of $10,000 = 0% utilization. $1 out of $10,000 = 10,000% utilization. Or something like that.

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« Reply #1166 on: June 25, 2013, 02:00:55 PM »
Not really, some credit bureaus may check in middle of the month, but almost always it is the end that matters. But try and leave a few dollars when the statement closes.

$0 out of $10,000 = 0% utilization. $1 out of $10,000 = 10,000% utilization. Or something like that.

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« Reply #1167 on: June 25, 2013, 02:02:44 PM »
Say wha?
Anyone feel free to correct me.
This is how I explain it dumbed down.
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« Reply #1168 on: June 25, 2013, 02:05:39 PM »
  This is how I explain it dumbed down.

I'm not even sure what you're trying to say.

How is $1 used out of a $10,000 CL = 10,000% usage? What is 10,000% usage anyway?
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« Reply #1169 on: June 25, 2013, 02:11:43 PM »
I'm not even sure what you're trying to say.

How is $1 used out of a $10,000 CL = 10,000% usage? What is 10,000% usage anyway?
They want to see how much free credit you have at the end of the month. So if you spend $5,000 you utilized 50% of your credit. That is not good. You only want to utilize 10% or less. So what I meant is if you spend a dollar you utilize .00001% Which is really good in their eyes. Much better than 0% which is just nothing.

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« Reply #1170 on: June 25, 2013, 02:42:59 PM »
1. Over-utilization doesn't do any long-term damage.
2. Don't do it again :)
Ok, I'll try. :)
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« Reply #1171 on: June 25, 2013, 02:54:50 PM »
They want to see how much free credit you have at the end of the month. So if you spend $5,000 you utilized 50% of your credit. That is not good. You only want to utilize 10% or less. So what I meant is if you spend a dollar you utilize .00001% Which is really good in their eyes. Much better than 0% which is just nothing.

Make any sense at all?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1172 on: June 25, 2013, 06:41:13 PM »
$0 out of $10,000 = 0% utilization. $1 out of $10,000 = 10,000% utilization. Or something like that.

Anyone feel free to correct me.
I think there's a lot of artistic license in that "something like that".

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1173 on: July 03, 2013, 09:39:21 AM »
Credit Karma says my score is in the 700s (about 725).
Does that make sense for someone who has a 2 month history?
Are they reliable?
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1174 on: July 03, 2013, 09:41:22 AM »
Credit Karma says my score is in the 700s (about 725).
Does that make sense for someone who has a 2 month history?
Are they reliable?
Its FAKO.  I dont think any FAKO is that reliable.

Try getting another FAKO score...see if and how different the scores are.
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« Reply #1175 on: July 03, 2013, 09:47:12 AM »
Its FAKO.  I dont think any FAKO is that reliable.

Try getting another FAKO score...see if and how different the scores are.
Credit sesame says about 645.  :-\
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1176 on: July 03, 2013, 09:48:19 AM »
They want to see how much free credit you have at the end of the month. So if you spend $5,000 you utilized 50% of your credit. That is not good. You only want to utilize 10% or less. So what I meant is if you spend a dollar you utilize .00001% Which is really good in their eyes. Much better than 0% which is just nothing.

Make any sense at all?
Not at all. I don't buy these utilization figures everyone likes to throw out.
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« Reply #1177 on: July 03, 2013, 09:48:55 AM »
Credit sesame says about 645.  :-\
Keep checking to you find one you like.  :)
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« Reply #1178 on: July 03, 2013, 09:51:43 AM »
Keep checking to you find one you like.  :)
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Like I said...
I dont think any FAKO is that reliable.

It's not about the quantity of your posts.  It's about the quality.

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« Reply #1179 on: July 03, 2013, 10:03:09 AM »
Keep checking to you find one you like.  :)
;D
I liked the first one better.
Are they reliable at all, just to have an estimate at where I'm holding?
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