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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1200 on: July 14, 2013, 03:56:13 AM »
1)Isn't there a way to transfer those points into UR points tho?

2)I have  a Freedom and United how would I combine them?

3)and If you cant combine them then whats the point of churning United if your just going to have 50,000 points in 5 different FFN's?
1) No.  United points can not be transferred into UR.  Nothing can.  UR can only be transferred out.

2)You cant.  You need the UR points to be in a SP or ink card for it to be transferable to airlines and hotels.

3)
Do you really not see an advantage if having 5 X 50k UA accounts over 1 X 50k ???
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And.....You can merge several FF accounts together creating one large UA account.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1201 on: July 14, 2013, 11:00:44 AM »
What is better for someone starting out in the credit world? To be added as an Authorized user or secondary user?
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1202 on: July 14, 2013, 11:04:44 AM »
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And.....You can merge several FF accounts together creating one large UA account.

Provided that the names match exactly.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1203 on: July 14, 2013, 11:05:59 AM »
Provided that the names match exactly.
Correct.  Thanks for adding that.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1204 on: July 15, 2013, 01:07:24 AM »
Does adding an AU to a CC come up on my Credit Sesame monitoring as a new acct opened?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1205 on: August 08, 2013, 10:48:17 PM »
I've been in this scene for few months. I currently have citi dividends, freedom, and arrival
I'm thinking of doing a 2/3BM with amex.

I'm for sure considering Spg (consumer and biz) question is should the 3rd be a personal or biz and which one?

I tried for a biz with chase few months ago and was denied so bad luck so far. Not sure if 2 biz would be smart

Should I just do 2BM  or do 3 (even tho I hear some ppl get apps canceled cu of duplicates)

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1206 on: August 11, 2013, 04:54:02 PM »
Can I ask Chase to switch my IB to an IP and get the sign up bonus for it?

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« Reply #1207 on: August 11, 2013, 04:55:42 PM »
Can I ask Chase to switch my IB to an IP and get the sign up bonus for it?

You mean like how you can "upgrade" from a Gold to a Platinum card with Amex? No.
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« Reply #1208 on: August 11, 2013, 04:56:15 PM »
Can I ask Chase to switch my IB to an IP and get the sign up bonus for it?

Generally no bonuses for converting.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1209 on: August 11, 2013, 05:08:49 PM »
Generally no bonuses for converting.
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« Reply #1210 on: August 11, 2013, 05:17:58 PM »
With Chase...

Even with AmEx. There are just a small number exceptions.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1211 on: August 12, 2013, 01:58:18 PM »
What is more important on CR? Long credit history (as an AU, I have an acct open 2 yrs before I was born) or low credit utilization (same card is at 70% utilization), better to keep myself as an AU or get off the card?
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1212 on: August 13, 2013, 12:28:40 AM »
Even with AmEx. There are just a small number exceptions.
Anything besides the Green?

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1213 on: August 19, 2013, 12:04:39 AM »
Gold ---> Plat?
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1214 on: August 19, 2013, 12:43:11 AM »
I just did the 2bm for the United Personal & Business. After I got myself approved by calling reconsideration I sm to them to up the miles from 30k to 55k.

Here is the sm I just got! What can I do? What did I do wrong?

Date:   08-17-2013 15:14:39
From:   Chase Card Services
Subject:   Re: Rewards Inquiry
Message:

 
Dear Shpitz,

Thank you for contacting Chase regarding your United
MileagePlus® credit card account.

We reviewed your account and see you recently opened a new
United MileagePlus credit card account, which offers bonus
miles after you spend $1,000 in the first 3 months your
account is open. Unfortunately, you will not be able to
receive the bonus miles since you received a similar offer
in the past. Here is additional information to help
explain the enrollment bonus:

?The terms and conditions associated with the credit card
indicate that the one-time offer is only for first-time
United MileagePlus cardmembers with a new account.
?Since you received 30,000 bonus miles in February 2012 on
your previous account ending in ----, you are not
considered a first time cardmember.
?Based on this information, this new account is not able
to receive the enrollment bonus miles.

Furthermore, we show that you have four frequent flyer
accounts in your name. Please be advised that you can
only have one frequent flyer account in your name.
Therefore, we contacted United and had your accounts
merged. They have merged your frequent flyer numbers
GS------, TH------, and TH------ into the active number
RP------. We have updated the credit card account to
reflect this number. Going forward all miles will be sent
to this number. Please allow 24-48 hours for all of your
miles to be in the active account. Please contact
MileagePlus directly at 1-800-421-4655 with any additional
concerns or your mileage balance.

If you have any further questions, please reply using the
Secure Message Center.

Thank you,

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I just opened up this Chase card and now I see it being
offered at the bank for 50k points plus 5k for authorized
user. I would greatly appreciate if you can please match
it.
Thank You
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1215 on: August 19, 2013, 12:46:04 AM »
You were supposed to sm only after the 30k posted. 

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1216 on: August 19, 2013, 01:01:56 AM »
Gold ---> Plat?
Yup... A prime example of missing the obvious.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1217 on: August 19, 2013, 01:05:51 AM »
so for this time its lost? or can anything be done besides learning the lesson? Thanks.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1218 on: August 19, 2013, 01:17:07 AM »
so for this time its lost? or can anything be done besides learning the lesson? Thanks.
There were reports of some receiving the bonus even after getting such an SM.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1219 on: August 19, 2013, 01:26:37 AM »
Would you know if they just let it go & got the points or took some action like communicating a lot with Customer service so they have lots of notes and ultimately will not skim through all of it by the time I''ll be requesting the miles down the road?

I'll greatly appreciate if a pro can guide with this
#1 should I bother spending the 1k on these 2 cards?
#2 should I keep on communicating to fill their notes with other stuff?
#3 anything else?