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If you are here reading this forum/thread, you probably have heard, seen or know someone who has been leveraging credit card points for free or very low cost travel and want to get involved. While it may be very tempting to jump right in and apply for a bunch of credit cards, it is advisable to read through the forums before doing so.

For those who have no credit history, building your credit score is strongly recommended and may even be needed before applying for any credit cards.

Step 1 - Try and get added as an Authorized User (AU) on an established credit card. This card should be kept in good standing and preferably have a low credit utilization ratio.
Some have had success with Amex to get your card backdated to the primary cardholders "member since" date. Having this done will increase your credit history to that of  the account holders first Amex card.
UPDATE Amex no longer backdates any cards. Any authorized user card will show up on the AUs report as a new account, opened on the date that the AU was added. Amex is now one of the worse choices to get added as an AU to, for credit building purposes.
Chase, Citi, Bank of America and others are more likely to show the full history of the primary cardholder on the authorized user's report than Amex is.

Additional Option - In conjunction with being added as an AU, you can  sign up for a secure credit card.
A secured credit card works almost like a debit card (you need to lay out your credit limit), but this functions as a regular credit card and will help build your credit score.

Step 2 - Once you are setup as an AU, it is best to wait a few months before applying for your first card.

Your first card should be a store credit card, which are easier to get approved for, especially with very limited credit history.
Some of the store cards people apply for are Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Kohl's, Macy's, Target etc. While these cards will not give you major signup bonuses to travel with, they do give you access to exclusive promotions and other perks when purchasing from the store.

Additional Options - The CapitalOne Journey card seems to be easier to get approved for, though understand they will pull your credit from all three agencies, while most banks only pull from one.

Discover has a student card you can apply for here. This can also be an easier option to getting approved for your first card. Their regular IT card (not student) seems to be pretty easy to get approved for with little to no credit history as well.

Step 3 - Pay your bill before your statement closes (cut off date), but leave a minimal amount remaining to be paid after your statement closes. This will help ensure that you have both a low CC utilization while establishing a good credit payment history. (This applies to new spending from this month.  Anything already 'due' should be paid in full.)

Step 4 - After using your first card for a few months, you will be ready to apply for the cards you will have read and heard so much about. Remember that getting accepted for a credit card is a combination of many factors like credit history and your credit score, but it is also dependent on the income that you claim* you make.  Income is not part of your credit report or score.

Step 5 - This is a brief synopsis of what to do when applying for credit cards. There are additional factors one should understand before applying for credit cards. DDF is a great resource and there are many people willing to answer your questions (which you should ask, albeit after attempting a search) 

*If you are under 21, you are legally only allowed to report personal income. Personal income, however, can include allowances and scholarships.
If you are over 21, you can claim any income which you have reasonable access to in order to pay back the bill, which includes the income of others in the household (spouse/parent), or anyone supporting you. Additionally, while most banks will not have you verify your income, it does happen and you should be prepared to show them. This is particularly prevalent with American Express, and is known as a Financial Review (FR).
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1380 on: October 23, 2013, 03:39:50 PM »
That's a little strong. ;)

Maybe. But it is. Fraud.  Might as well say it like it is.
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« Reply #1381 on: October 23, 2013, 03:40:59 PM »
Maybe. But it is. Fraud.  Might as well say it like it is.
I was under the impression that most, ahem, "stretch the truth".
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« Reply #1382 on: October 23, 2013, 03:44:06 PM »
I was under the impression that most, ahem, "stretch the truth".

And you'd be right. Many do.

Either way, it's still fraud.
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« Reply #1383 on: October 23, 2013, 03:55:02 PM »
And you'd be right. Many do.

Either way, it's still fraud.
Agreed.
Was just pointing out that it might not be the "type" of fraud that needs to be totally avoided. :P
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« Reply #1384 on: October 23, 2013, 03:57:26 PM »
Agreed.
Was just pointing out that it might not be the "type" of fraud that needs to be totally avoided. :P


Meanwhile- back on topic-

Anyone else have any experiences to report with getting approved for credit with a low income?

Again, keeping in mind they have EXCELLENT CREDIT.
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« Reply #1385 on: October 23, 2013, 05:04:17 PM »

Meanwhile- back on topic-

Anyone else have any experiences to report with getting approved for credit with a low income?

Again, keeping in mind they have EXCELLENT CREDIT.
Why not?  Depends on the card and if there are minimum CL requirements.

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« Reply #1386 on: October 23, 2013, 05:46:51 PM »
Especially if there is no immediate need.  Your chances only improve every day you wait.  Also, CMIIW, there are no deals expiring any time soon (except SW).

My inlaws live far away, and we're planning on going there for pesach. I hear you need to book mileage in advance so there won't be availability issues, so I want to start accruing quickly. Also, the Mrs really wants a Euro vaca :)

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« Reply #1387 on: October 23, 2013, 05:48:35 PM »
+1 I'd def wait a few months if I had a 7 month history and just got rejected for a store card.

Like I mentioned, I'm pretty sure I got rejected for the Macys card because I had no score before 6 months - and that doesn't apply anymore.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1388 on: October 23, 2013, 05:54:54 PM »

Maybe. But it is. Fraud.  Might as well say it like it is.
Before I was involved in m/p I'm embarrassed to say I applied for a td cc while opening a checking account and the banker put down for income a completely fictional amount...

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« Reply #1389 on: October 23, 2013, 05:58:02 PM »
Before I was involved in m/p I'm embarrassed to say I applied for a td cc while opening a checking account and the banker put down for income a completely fictional amount...

Are you saying he upped the amount? I've heard that before.
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« Reply #1390 on: October 23, 2013, 06:00:42 PM »

Are you saying he upped the amount? I've heard that before.
Yea I'm like idk maybe 50 and he's like ill write 90. Maybe he got a commission or s/t idk but he def didn't care about the fraud 

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1391 on: October 23, 2013, 06:17:08 PM »
We should change this back to english before CV comes in here and starts breaking his teeth!
I was going to make a comment but I thought it best to keep my mouth shut.
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1392 on: October 23, 2013, 06:23:35 PM »
I was under the impression that most, ahem, "stretch the truth".

If a guy makes 36k a year and churns, could be His actual income IS 50k! YMMV  ;D

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1393 on: October 23, 2013, 06:24:12 PM »
Maybe he got a commission or s/t idk but he def didn't care about the fraud 
Bingo.
Bigger the income, bigger the approval chances.
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« Reply #1394 on: October 23, 2013, 09:42:01 PM »
Bingo.
Bigger the income, bigger the approval chances.
Recommended (stretching the truth-alot)?
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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1395 on: October 23, 2013, 09:48:48 PM »

Meanwhile- back on topic-

Anyone else have any experiences to report with getting approved for credit with a low income?

Again, keeping in mind they have EXCELLENT CREDIT.
Yes, in the past, I personally have gotten approved for a number of CCs while in school and not making much on the side. I don't remember how much I was making at the time, but it was less than 30k.
I did, however, have excellent credit.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1396 on: October 23, 2013, 09:50:31 PM »
Recommended (stretching the truth-alot)?
There's always a possibility they'll ask you to prove income.

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Re: Credit Card For Beginners
« Reply #1397 on: October 24, 2013, 12:02:35 AM »
30K and you got denied? Just for income? That doesn't sound right. Do you have other credit with them already?
Yeah, I had the BA with 1500 CL for over a year already.
I also thought it was weird, but that's what she told me.

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« Reply #1398 on: October 24, 2013, 12:04:32 AM »
Yeah, I had the BA with 1500 CL for over a year already.
I also thought it was weird, but that's what she told me.
HUCA?

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« Reply #1399 on: October 24, 2013, 12:07:56 AM »
HUCA?

Lol. Yeah, I did. I was just responding to an earlier post, but I mentioned before that both apps got approved by the same rep in the end after we added my wife's projected income into the equation.