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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2013, 10:11:38 AM »
As opposed to?
that I'm female and its my kesuba.

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2013, 10:13:21 AM »
WHOA!
???
nobody reads it the main question is if its halachacly permitted
I read it :P. What halacha would it go against?
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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2013, 10:16:51 AM »
What is not appropriate out of curiousity?
to put up a shtar saying a husband who divorces his wife must pay.... Or like jj1000 said.

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2013, 10:17:24 AM »
I heard that's not always true these days
DUDE look at shulchan aruch even haezer siman samach vov seif afef beis and gimmel and then tell me that it's not true these days "asur lshhos afilu shaa achas"

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #64 on: April 04, 2013, 10:20:07 AM »
:o
there's no embarrassment for a non virgin because even if she hangs it up nobody is walking in to her house, reading the kesuba and say "oh you weren't a virgin"

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #65 on: April 04, 2013, 10:21:16 AM »
DUDE look at shulchan aruch even haezer siman samach vov seif afef beis and gimmel and then tell me that it's not true these days "asur lshhos afilu shaa achas"
+1. My father just a couple of weeks ago had to take care of a couple who lost their kesuba

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #66 on: April 04, 2013, 10:21:19 AM »
I read it :P. What halacha would it go against?
They say you're not supposed to, he could just walk off with it and then she's stuck

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #67 on: April 04, 2013, 10:23:11 AM »
My rav told me that if you are away from home for less than 3 months you don't have to take the kesubah with you.
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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #68 on: April 04, 2013, 10:26:17 AM »
My rav told me that if you are away from home for less than 3 months you don't have to take the kesubah with you.

 The reason you have that leeway is because you know where it is.  If you lose it you don't have three months.
 ( I'm not saying you mean otherwise,  I'm just making it clear)

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #69 on: April 04, 2013, 10:26:53 AM »
DUDE look at shulchan aruch even haezer siman samach vov seif afef beis and gimmel and then tell me that it's not true these days "asur lshhos afilu shaa achas"

DUDE I don't know the details (which is why all I said is I heard) but someone I know was told that it was okay to stay together while he was getting a new one written

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #70 on: April 04, 2013, 10:30:46 AM »
My parents once misplaced their kesuba (for a few hours) while moving, the rabbi instructed the husband to be makneh all his nechosim to wife as a temporary solution until found. He said that if this is not done they cant live together.

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #71 on: April 04, 2013, 10:31:34 AM »
DUDE I don't know the details (which is why all I said is I heard) but someone I know was told that it was okay to stay together while he was getting a new one written
If there are witnesses could make a difference. Maybe some consider the kesuba in the wedding video a factor?
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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #72 on: April 04, 2013, 10:33:43 AM »
If there are witnesses could make a difference. Maybe some consider the kesuba in the wedding video a factor?
??? the only taina he has is porati so what difference does it make if people see. Technically she gets the kesuba even if there is no shtar with just the get but if he produces the kesuba he's neeman to say porati

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #73 on: April 04, 2013, 10:36:31 AM »
And who actually PAYS the kesubah?
AFAIK, most divorces end up with an agreement like I give up on this thing and you give up on the kesubah.
Not appropriate IMO, but that's what's happening in most cases.
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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #74 on: April 04, 2013, 10:37:35 AM »
And who actually PAYS the kesubah?
AFAIK, most divorces end up with an agreement like I give up on this thing and you give up on the kesubah.
Not appropriate IMO, but that's what's happening in most cases.
and therefore ... its mutar?

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #75 on: April 04, 2013, 10:41:58 AM »
Mutar what?
Its all with the consent of a rav.
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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #76 on: April 04, 2013, 10:44:03 AM »
Mutar what?
Its all with the consent of a rav.
no mutar to be without kesuba

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #77 on: April 04, 2013, 10:56:19 AM »
And I said?
Love me or hate me. I still love you.

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #78 on: April 04, 2013, 10:59:49 AM »
And I said?
Who actually pays the kesuba which was right after my post that he could taina porati but I didn't really think you were disagreeing with it

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Re: Do you have your kesuba?
« Reply #79 on: April 04, 2013, 11:08:48 AM »
And who actually PAYS the kesubah?
AFAIK, most divorces end up with an agreement like I give up on this thing and you give up on the kesubah.
Not appropriate IMO, but that's what's happening in most cases.
Oy.