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Some of them are masters of HUCA and have no problem speaking to the same person.
They ask for retention bonuses.
They ask for termination fees.
Very churnable. The real experts churn every day. Others every month or year.
They always call the reconsideration department.
Some get instant approval and a 2bm with office and home. Husband and wife.
Others get rejected for too many pulls. Last 6 months matter most. 2 years of records are kept.
The applicants don't work, churning is their job.  
They have lots of points. Are frequent flyers.
Always fly in first class.
Tour the entire world. Chabad House not a requirement.
Some should be F/R'd.
Others need A/A.
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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2013, 05:09:54 PM »
I guess it's a nice paying salery after all.

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2013, 05:12:34 PM »
It is not a pleasant job. Just be happy that you are from the givers.

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2013, 05:13:34 PM »
It is not a pleasant job. Just be happy that you are from the givers.

To those who need it, I can imagine its not. That's putting it mildly.
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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2013, 05:13:42 PM »
It is not a pleasant job. Just be happy that you are from the givers.
And daven (undisturbed ;)) that it should always be that way.
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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2013, 05:13:59 PM »
I've had some come over to me in middle shmone esrei  ::)

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2013, 05:19:50 PM »
LOL!
I never give them. When I'm davening, I'm davening (or whatever).
Disturbing me is not tolerated.
WOW you really are a meshugener  :P

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2013, 05:51:42 PM »
It is not a pleasant job. Just be happy that you are from the givers.
+100 At least s/b has a positive perspective...

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2013, 05:56:54 PM »
IMHO Its truly non taxable income as its a gift, they should start taking CC... ;)il swipe a buck or two

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2013, 05:59:52 PM »

This is such simple straight-forward common-sense. Why bother the rabbi with this?

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2013, 06:02:03 PM »
This is such simple straight-forward common-sense. Why bother the rabbi with this?
better than most of the stuff they bothered him with. At least this is a mekor for future reference

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2013, 04:56:43 PM »
IMHO Its truly non taxable income as its a gift, they should start taking CC... ;)il swipe a buck or two
Only the first $13000/yr is not taxable.
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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2013, 09:00:43 PM »
Only the first $13000/yr is not taxable.

Yah, but you're making a mistake. Gift tax is chal on the giver; not the receiver. The giver has to pay 40% of however much he gave away as a gift to the government. But, the first 13k a year is totally pattur, and after that there is a lifetime exemption of currently 5.25 million.

So if this was considered a gift, then the people who gave would be chayav to count how much they were giving, and after 13k a year start counting towards the exemption and then after 5.25 million start paying taxes. Which they would never agree to because they want to use their gift tax exemption on their kids.

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2013, 09:05:53 PM »
Yah, but you're making a mistake. Gift tax is chal on the giver; not the receiver. The giver has to pay 40% of however much he gave away as a gift to the government. But, the first 13k a year is totally pattur, and after that there is a lifetime exemption of currently 5.25 million.

So if this was considered a gift, then the people who gave would be chayav to count how much they were giving, and after 13k a year start counting towards the exemption and then after 5.25 million start paying taxes. Which they would never agree to because they want to use their gift tax exemption on their kids.
Right, but its first 13k per year per donor per donee. (also some states may have gift taxes)

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2013, 09:11:04 PM »
Right, but its first 13k per year per donor per donee. (also some states may have gift taxes)

yah, I stand corrected. It would only matter to the givers if they gave more than 13k to one guy in a year.

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2013, 10:32:34 PM »
I've seen someone going around with a cc machine. (What I hope to see next is someone from the givers going around to swipe for all that just want to give a quarter.) Not during Shmone Esrei, of course...

Right, but its first 13k per year per donor per donee. (also some states may have gift taxes)

Isn't it up to $14k. (Just in case it's nogea for anyone reading the thread)

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2013, 10:40:20 PM »
The future for these people are square with the iPhone or Android  :)

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2013, 11:07:26 PM »
I've seen someone going around with a cc machine. (What I hope to see next is someone from the givers going around to swipe for all that just want to give a quarter.) Not during Shmone Esrei, of course...

Isn't it up to $14k. (Just in case it's nogea for anyone reading the thread)
nope. (unless you split with spouse its 26k)

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Re: How much do shnorors make?
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2013, 11:23:28 PM »
And $14k * 2 would be $28,000

Correct. But if you're the giver, you'd want it to be counted as charity anyway, if possible. That deduction is capped at half your income.