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Hidden-City Ticketing.

http://matrix.itasoftware.com/

Using

Searching a one-way from LGA-CLE on 07/06 comes up $500 for a nonstop.
To find a hidden-city ticket:
Search for a one-way from LGA::CLE and then going to CLE and cities within 300 miles and it will come up with the same non-stop flight (along with a throw-away leg to PIT) for $140.
Just don't do it too often and don't check luggage!

There's lots of other useful codes if people want similar demonstrations.
« Last edited by elikay on September 13, 2014, 09:48:55 PM »

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #150 on: November 27, 2013, 01:09:18 AM »
Hi,
Having trouble with routes AVL to LAX; I put in x:LAX to force a stop and chose destination airports 100 miles away, then 500 miles away (unchecked LAX then cut/paste into destination) and it says "no flights found". Then I tried for ex AVL SBA without using x:LAX and it found a flight with a stop at LAX. But when I tried to add x:lax, it said no fares found. This does not make sense.
I must be doing it wrong.
Thx
which date

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #151 on: November 27, 2013, 01:21:59 AM »
12/29 but any date really, I just don't understand the functionality issue here, I get the codes pretty well.

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #152 on: November 27, 2013, 01:55:15 AM »
because LAX in middle box means single stop in LAX as specified in "examples" and all those flights have 2 stops. remember matrix wasn't designed specifically for hidden city ;) 

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #153 on: November 28, 2013, 12:57:46 AM »
Ahhhh, makes perfect logical sense.

I re-did it, this time specifying the connections that I know are common to AVL (either EWR, CLT, ATL, or ORD) in addition to LAX, and it worked. Didn't find and hidden city specials but at least it worked and I have a better understanding of the codes thanks to you.

I will keep looking but I am doubtful UA, DL, or US will ever have fares out of AVL to beyond LAX that are less than just terminating at LAX. Tantalizing in other markets tho ;D

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #154 on: February 26, 2014, 12:35:44 AM »
I know this thread is getting a bit old, I'm just curious, did Lesson #2 ever come out?

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #155 on: February 26, 2014, 06:42:39 PM »
I know this thread is getting a bit old, I'm just curious, did Lesson #2 ever come out?
I was wondering the same thing.  ???  So much to read, but I'm still holding strong.

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #156 on: April 13, 2014, 10:19:36 AM »
Does hidden city work for award tickets? Obviously not to get a flight for lower miles, but perhaps to find more availability?

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #157 on: April 13, 2014, 10:21:51 AM »
Does hidden city work for award tickets? Obviously not to get a flight for lower miles, but perhaps to find more availability?
No. There are other programs around for awards.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #158 on: April 13, 2014, 10:22:46 AM »
No. There are other programs around for awards.
What do you mean?

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #159 on: April 13, 2014, 10:23:51 AM »
What do you mean?
ITA Software, Expert Flyer. They cost money.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #160 on: April 13, 2014, 10:28:40 AM »
ITA Software, Expert Flyer. They cost money.
Oh yeah, I wasn't looking for award searching. I meant more like a way to find a flight that may have availability via a hidden city but that doesn't show avail on its own.
EX. I'm looking NYC-MIA on AA and can't find avail. But maybe NYC-MIA-DFW would have avail and then I can just get off at MIA.

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #161 on: April 13, 2014, 10:38:02 AM »
That's not how award availability works bro.

Also, ITA does not show award availability, period.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #162 on: April 13, 2014, 10:39:56 AM »
That's not how award availability works bro.

Also, ITA does not show award availability, period.

Yeah I know it doesn't show that.

I've definitely found on aa.com random flights that only showed up as stopovers X-Y-Z but that wouldn't show up if I looked just Y-Z.

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #163 on: April 13, 2014, 11:12:05 AM »
For example?
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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #164 on: April 13, 2014, 11:33:26 AM »
For example?
I don't remember. It was when I was planning the OWE.
Found something like LHR-MAD-JFK but MAD-JFK didn't exist. Either way, that was a while ago so I'm sure it's not available for viewing now. I dk maybe I'm wrong here. In either case, there's nothing good NYC-MIA for 5/19 so I was hoping that hidden city would be an option. I guess it's not, or at least there's no easy way to search it.