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Searching a one-way from LGA-CLE on 07/06 comes up $500 for a nonstop.
To find a hidden-city ticket:
Search for a one-way from LGA::CLE and then going to CLE and cities within 300 miles and it will come up with the same non-stop flight (along with a throw-away leg to PIT) for $140.
Just don't do it too often and don't check luggage!

There's lots of other useful codes if people want similar demonstrations.
« Last edited by elikay on September 13, 2014, 09:48:55 PM »

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #140 on: May 20, 2013, 11:47:15 AM »
Can anyone help me search a ticket nyc - lhr 5/22 - 5/26 or 27?

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #141 on: May 20, 2013, 11:49:08 AM »

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #142 on: May 20, 2013, 11:55:09 AM »
Not chapping very shnell, are we? ;)

Try adding X:CLE to force a stop in Cleveland.

Moshe, PLEASE can you help me & show me a screenshot of your ITA screen? Any possibility? I am still new to this & am willing to learn..

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #143 on: May 20, 2013, 12:06:28 PM »
Moshe, PLEASE can you help me & show me a screenshot of your ITA screen? Any possibility? I am still new to this & am willing to learn..

See below. (The destination box is what you get when you choose "Find airports near Cleveland, OH, within 300 mi", select all, then uncheck CLE.)

On 5/28, for example, the query shown yields EWR-CLE-ERI for $158, whereas EWR-CLE is $415.

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #144 on: May 20, 2013, 12:34:32 PM »
OK, I see.. Thank you very much.. Learned something new today.. "X:CLE" means "must stop in Cleveland" I figure...

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #145 on: May 20, 2013, 12:37:47 PM »
See below. (The destination box is what you get when you choose "Find airports near Cleveland, OH, within 300 mi", select all, then uncheck CLE.)

On 5/28, for example, the query shown yields EWR-CLE-ERI for $158, whereas EWR-CLE is $415.
This picture just cleared up the confusion i have had trying to book like this.

Thanks.
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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #146 on: May 20, 2013, 12:39:07 PM »
You guys are welcome. I'm happy to help. :)

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #147 on: May 20, 2013, 12:41:36 PM »
OK, I see.. Thank you very much.. Learned something new today.. "X:CLE" means "must stop in Cleveland" I figure...
The X: is optional.  You can also just write CLE

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #148 on: May 22, 2013, 09:30:19 AM »
See below. (The destination box is what you get when you choose "Find airports near Cleveland, OH, within 300 mi", select all, then uncheck CLE.)

On 5/28, for example, the query shown yields EWR-CLE-ERI for $158, whereas EWR-CLE is $415.
When entering a search like this, how long should it take to generate the pricing?

Mine has been loading >2 minutes, is that normal?
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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #149 on: November 27, 2013, 12:57:49 AM »
Hi,
Having trouble with routes AVL to LAX; I put in x:LAX to force a stop and chose destination airports 100 miles away, then 500 miles away (unchecked LAX then cut/paste into destination) and it says "no flights found". Then I tried for ex AVL SBA without using x:LAX and it found a flight with a stop at LAX. But when I tried to add x:lax, it said no fares found. This does not make sense.
I must be doing it wrong.
Thx

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #150 on: November 27, 2013, 01:09:18 AM »
Hi,
Having trouble with routes AVL to LAX; I put in x:LAX to force a stop and chose destination airports 100 miles away, then 500 miles away (unchecked LAX then cut/paste into destination) and it says "no flights found". Then I tried for ex AVL SBA without using x:LAX and it found a flight with a stop at LAX. But when I tried to add x:lax, it said no fares found. This does not make sense.
I must be doing it wrong.
Thx
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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #151 on: November 27, 2013, 01:21:59 AM »
12/29 but any date really, I just don't understand the functionality issue here, I get the codes pretty well.

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #152 on: November 27, 2013, 01:55:15 AM »
because LAX in middle box means single stop in LAX as specified in "examples" and all those flights have 2 stops. remember matrix wasn't designed specifically for hidden city ;) 

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #153 on: November 28, 2013, 12:57:46 AM »
Ahhhh, makes perfect logical sense.

I re-did it, this time specifying the connections that I know are common to AVL (either EWR, CLT, ATL, or ORD) in addition to LAX, and it worked. Didn't find and hidden city specials but at least it worked and I have a better understanding of the codes thanks to you.

I will keep looking but I am doubtful UA, DL, or US will ever have fares out of AVL to beyond LAX that are less than just terminating at LAX. Tantalizing in other markets tho ;D

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #154 on: February 26, 2014, 12:35:44 AM »
I know this thread is getting a bit old, I'm just curious, did Lesson #2 ever come out?

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #155 on: February 26, 2014, 06:42:39 PM »
I know this thread is getting a bit old, I'm just curious, did Lesson #2 ever come out?
I was wondering the same thing.  ???  So much to read, but I'm still holding strong.

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #156 on: April 13, 2014, 10:19:36 AM »
Does hidden city work for award tickets? Obviously not to get a flight for lower miles, but perhaps to find more availability?

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #157 on: April 13, 2014, 10:21:51 AM »
Does hidden city work for award tickets? Obviously not to get a flight for lower miles, but perhaps to find more availability?
No. There are other programs around for awards.
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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #158 on: April 13, 2014, 10:22:46 AM »
No. There are other programs around for awards.
What do you mean?

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Re: ITA Code Lesson #1: Hidden-City Ticketing.
« Reply #159 on: April 13, 2014, 10:23:51 AM »
What do you mean?
ITA Software, Expert Flyer. They cost money.
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