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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2013, 04:12:10 PM »
Yes that is why I asked.

Ok fine. The core is G-d given, and there is a corpus of man made which surrounds it.

Fish and meat is part of the man  made corpus.

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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #61 on: April 17, 2013, 04:35:50 PM »
Thanks, funny story actually humans are not biblicaly forbidden.
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I should start a seperate thread? This seems a good thread for this question.
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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #62 on: April 17, 2013, 04:38:09 PM »
Machlokes


Yah. Some hold it is an issur asei from the diyuk of את זה תאכלו, that we shouldn't eat people.
Some say it is d'rabanan.

But people blood is only maris ayin.

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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #63 on: April 17, 2013, 04:41:11 PM »
I hope I don’t open up the can with this one but are Jewish dietary laws God given or man created?
Leviticus 11 (just down the block from your sig :P )

Thanks, funny story actually humans are not biblicaly forbidden.
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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #64 on: April 17, 2013, 04:43:56 PM »
Yah. Some hold it is an issur asei from the diyuk of את זה תאכלו, that we shouldn't eat people.
Some say it is d'rabanan.

But people blood is only maris ayin.
the question is, if someone eats his Cuticals does a person have to wait 6 hrs to eat dairy?
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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #65 on: April 17, 2013, 04:49:12 PM »
Yah. Some hold it is an issur asei from the diyuk of את זה תאכלו, that we shouldn't eat people.
Some say it is d'rabanan.

But people blood is only maris ayin.
I am glad I don't understand this one.
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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #66 on: April 17, 2013, 04:53:38 PM »
the question is, if someone eats his Cuticals does a person have to wait 6 hrs to eat dairy?

Well, seeing as cholov isha is not milchig, it stands to reason that basar odom is not fleishig...

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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #67 on: April 17, 2013, 04:59:12 PM »
I hope I don’t open up the can with this one but are Jewish dietary laws God given or man created?

All of Jewish law in its entirety was given to Moses on my sini with six hundred thousand witnesses. One part of the law was transmitted orally and another written.
what's your question?

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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #68 on: April 17, 2013, 04:59:50 PM »
All of Jewish law in its entirety was given to Moses on my sini with six hundred thousand witnesses. One part of the law was transmitted orally and another written.
what's your question?

His question was answered just read upthread.
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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2013, 05:03:03 PM »
His question was answered just read upthread.
just adding my two cents :)

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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #70 on: April 17, 2013, 05:03:48 PM »
That was my gut reaction also, but we are forgetting d'rabanans

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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #71 on: April 17, 2013, 05:09:54 PM »
All of Jewish law in its entirety was given to Moses on my sini with six hundred thousand witnesses. One part of the law was transmitted orally and another written.
what's your question?
Do we have a copy of the written part?  ;)
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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #72 on: April 17, 2013, 05:14:53 PM »
Well, seeing as cholov isha is not milchig, it stands to reason that basar odom is not fleishig...
only according to the taz and the MA bec something tamai is already assur and no din of Basar bchalav. While the Bach holds theres a new issur of basar bchalav by something thats tamai and that one would need to wait the 6 hours. ע׳ יו"ד פז
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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #73 on: April 17, 2013, 05:45:01 PM »
only according to the taz and the MA bec something tamai is already assur and no din of Basar bchalav. While the Bach holds theres a new issur of basar bchalav by something thats tamai and that one would need to wait the 6 hours. ע׳ יו"ד פז

You're getting mixed up between 87:2 and 87:4. No connection between tamei and cholov isha/maris haayin.
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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #74 on: April 17, 2013, 05:49:34 PM »
You're getting mixed up between 87:2 and 87:4. No connection between tamei and cholov isha/maris haayin.
i did not mean to continue onto his statement... Sorry. I just was stating an answer to my q
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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #75 on: April 17, 2013, 05:50:21 PM »
You're getting mixed up between 87:2 and 87:4. No connection between tamei and cholov isha/maris haayin.
+1 that's what I was thinking. Still some do hold chalav isha has a milk like status.
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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #76 on: April 17, 2013, 05:53:53 PM »
I am glad I don't understand this one.
+1
You might start believing the blood libels were true :P
Though on a serious note it was sources such as these that were brought up in the Beilis trial as "proof" that Jews use blood.

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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #77 on: April 18, 2013, 01:27:28 AM »
the question is, if someone eats his Cuticals does a person have to wait 6 hrs to eat dairy?

lol but since theres no issur of basar vcholov on say pork and milk only on food muter biachila so the concept of waiting wouldnt apply

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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #78 on: April 18, 2013, 01:39:19 AM »
lol but since theres no issur of basar vcholov on say pork and milk only on food muter biachila so the concept of waiting wouldnt apply
Not according to the Bach who holds you would by a davor tamai
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Re: Can you BBQ fish on a meat grill?
« Reply #79 on: April 18, 2013, 01:52:39 PM »
Not according to the Bach who holds you would by a davor tamai
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