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CountValentine · « **Reply #100 on:** April 30, 2013, 10:42:12 AM »

Quote from: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 10:38:12 AM

He is in the league since 03-04 and he averages 25 ppg his fg% is 45.6. Kobe in his career avg 25.5 ppg and fg% if 45.4 and Lebron avg ppg is 27.6 and fg% of 49%..... pretty similar stats.

Similar stats and that is about it. How has he faired against the top teams this year?

judahk88 · « **Reply #101 on:** April 30, 2013, 10:42:35 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on April 30, 2013, 10:42:12 AM

Similar stats and that is about it. How has he faired against the top teams this year?

3-1 against the heat.

judahk88 · « **Reply #102 on:** April 30, 2013, 10:43:00 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on April 30, 2013, 10:42:12 AM

Similar stats and that is about it. How has he faired against the top teams this year?

And the argument is if he is a great player or not.

CountValentine · « **Reply #103 on:** April 30, 2013, 10:44:38 AM »

Quote from: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 10:43:00 AM

And the argument is if he is a great player or not.

Define great. Same class as Kobe or Lebron, hell no.

judahk88 · « **Reply #104 on:** April 30, 2013, 10:45:36 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on April 30, 2013, 10:44:38 AM

Define great. Same class as Kobe or Lebron, hell no.

No I never said that, but he is a top 5 player in the league IMO.

judahk88 · « **Reply #105 on:** April 30, 2013, 10:46:06 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on April 30, 2013, 10:44:38 AM

Define great. Same class as Kobe or Lebron, hell no.

I define great by stats. They never lie.

dhalpern1 · « **Reply #106 on:** April 30, 2013, 10:46:17 AM »

Quote from: rots5 on April 30, 2013, 10:35:54 AM

I don't think hes not good. I think i said it that way, yes...i don't think he's a great. That's all. All you knick fans love him this yr but what happened to the first, what was it 3 seasons in NY?! He pulled an arod and sucked. You guys would've given him away for free basically. Now that he shoots 35 shots a game and scores 30 points all of a sudden hes a great!!??? Hes amazing?! C'mon be realistic. Hes good but he ain't no great!

Lets take this piece by piece:
- The first 3 seasons in NY, D'antoni's offensive style was not suited for him. D'antoni runs a fast paced offense, Carmelo is an iso player. Additionally, D'antoni didnt figure out how to use Carmelo and Amare well together, especially within the type of offense they were running.
- Pulled an ARod? Not going to respond to this one. Dont think its needed.
- Shoots 35 times a game- Averaging 22 shots a game. Shooting 45%, i will take that. (Top 10 for SFs and would have been top 6 for SGs)

Nobody is saying he is an alltime great yet, but he has carried NY into the playoffs this year and would be curious to see how far he takes them. Leading the league in points at a good FG%, while carrying his team to the #2 team in their division, he deserves consideration as one of the top players of the year.

CountValentine · « **Reply #107 on:** April 30, 2013, 10:51:09 AM »

Quote from: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 10:46:06 AM

I define great by stats. They never lie.

You sure about that? How many of MJ’s points were scored against double and triple teams? How many forced shots did he have to take with the shot clock expiring? You need to look a little deeper at the numbers.

judahk88 · « **Reply #108 on:** April 30, 2013, 10:53:51 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on April 30, 2013, 10:51:09 AM

You sure about that? How many of MJ’s points were scored against double and triple teams? How many forced shots did he have to take with the shot clock expiring? You need to look a little deeper at the numbers.

I am definitely not comparing anyone to MJ that is a different discussion #greatestplayerever. when a player averages 25ppg and shoots 45% that is a great player.

dd321 · « **Reply #109 on:** April 30, 2013, 10:59:52 AM »

Quote from: dhalpern1 on April 30, 2013, 10:46:17 AM

Lets take this piece by piece:
- The first 3 seasons in NY, D'antoni's offensive style was not suited for him. D'antoni runs a fast paced offense, Carmelo is an iso player. Additionally, D'antoni didnt figure out how to use Carmelo and Amare well together, especially within the type of offense they were running.
- Pulled an ARod? Not going to respond to this one. Dont think its needed.
- Shoots 35 times a game- Averaging 22 shots a game. Shooting 45%, i will take that. (Top 10 for SFs and would have been top 6 for SGs)

Nobody is saying he is an alltime great yet, but he has carried NY into the playoffs this year and would be curious to see how far he takes them. Leading the league in points at a good FG%, while carrying his team to the #2 team in their division, he deserves consideration as one of the top players of the year.

+100. I think rots5 is stuck in time, Dwight had a horrible year. The nets don't have kid Jefferson or Martin . And if my memory is correct, I think when nets had those 2 runs the east was very weak, hence they got demolished in the finals

dd321 · « **Reply #110 on:** May 01, 2013, 09:34:47 PM »

I'll be 1st to say it: Knicks are embarrassment , deserve to lose, hopefully they will learn for this series

judahk88 · « **Reply #111 on:** May 01, 2013, 10:01:17 PM »

Quote from: kugelfresser on May 01, 2013, 09:34:47 PM

I'll be 1st to say it: Knicks are embarrassment , deserve to lose, hopefully they will learn for this series

Embarrassing!

CountValentine · « **Reply #112 on:** May 02, 2013, 01:32:37 AM »

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I'll be 1st to say it: Knicks are embarrassment , deserve to lose, hopefully they will learn for this series
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Quote from: judahk88 on May 01, 2013, 10:01:17 PM

Embarrassing!

Kind of hard to understand with Melo on the team.

rots5 · « **Reply #113 on:** May 02, 2013, 02:29:01 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on May 02, 2013, 01:32:37 AM

quote author=kugelfresser link=topic=27560.msg481060#msg481060 date=1367458487]
I'll be 1st to say it: Knicks are embarrassment , deserve to lose, hopefully they will learn for this series
Kind of hard to understand with Melo on the team.

lol

i just saw the highlights, im sure all u guys were thinking you had this game ar 11-0 when melo hit 5-11 in the first q...
i think worse than melo's disastrous shooting was jr smith whad he shoot? 3-18? (something like that)

what happened at the end of the game? more breakfast cereal?

judahk88 · « **Reply #114 on:** May 02, 2013, 07:36:30 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on May 02, 2013, 01:32:37 AM

quote author=kugelfresser link=topic=27560.msg481060#msg481060 date=1367458487]
I'll be 1st to say it: Knicks are embarrassment , deserve to lose, hopefully they will learn for this series
Kind of hard to understand with Melo on the team.

Funny... Still as bad as he played I stick by what I said. Last night was just a big disaster.

Kvending · « **Reply #115 on:** May 02, 2013, 08:09:43 AM »

Anyone believe Nets are gonna win tonight to push game 7 ??

CountValentine · « **Reply #116 on:** May 02, 2013, 09:32:50 AM »

Classless Knicks show true colors
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/knicks-wear-black-to-game-look-like-fools-after-celtics-win-050113

aarony · « **Reply #117 on:** May 02, 2013, 10:35:43 AM »

found this spg offer for 2nd round out MSG - 30K pts for 2 tix in luxury suite....

http://auction.starwoodhotels.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=190319079&cgmenbr=67280009

Kvending · « **Reply #118 on:** May 02, 2013, 10:47:37 AM »

Quote from: aarony on May 02, 2013, 10:35:43 AM

found this spg offer for 2nd round out MSG - 30K pts for 2 tix in luxury suite....

http://auction.starwoodhotels.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=190319079&cgmenbr=67280009

Are these seats able to be sold?

Like on StubHub?

damaxer91 · « **Reply #119 on:** May 02, 2013, 10:54:03 AM »

FYI, Suites at MSG are about a mile high. View is awful

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