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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2860 on: July 24, 2017, 08:08:11 PM »
0 DNP-Injury games :P

Then 0. But if he can play 60 games, score 15ppg, hit a jump shot/play defense every game or two, he'll marginally help the cavs. And the cavs are now better suited to trade irving, if the opportunity presents itself this year.

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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2861 on: July 24, 2017, 08:11:31 PM »
I don't disagree about Irving, but you probably didn't take your own advice, what with Westbrook at the top of your list. NBA.com has a FG% on drives, and Westbrook's was actually lower than Irving's.

http://stats.nba.com/players/shooting-efficiency/#!?sort=DRIVE_FG_PCT&dir=1&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=Totals&CF=DRIVE_PTS*GE*200

Lebron and Durant are on a whole other level from the rest of the league in this category.
Stats work the way you want them. I forget which game it was in the last final but LBJ was taking it to the hole almost every time he touched the ball in the first half. The second half it was non-existent.
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2862 on: July 24, 2017, 08:13:55 PM »
And the cavs are now better suited to trade irving, if the opportunity presents itself this year.
For such a great young player to build a team around and the best finisher in the game a trade should be a brainer. They can probably get a top ten player and two first round picks!!!  :)
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2863 on: July 24, 2017, 08:15:46 PM »
Stats work the way you want them. I forget which game it was in the last final but LBJ was taking it to the hole almost every time he touched the ball in the first half. The second half it was non-existent.
And your point is...?

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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2864 on: July 24, 2017, 08:19:42 PM »
And your point is...?
Finishing in crunch time is what matters the most.
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2865 on: July 24, 2017, 08:19:49 PM »
Using an eff fg% on drives of players that have a significant number of drives a game (>7 or so),  kyrie is top 10 each of the past 3 years. The players above him are:
1. LBJ
2. Rose
3. Derozan
4. Liliard
5. Cousins (I'm fine considering him a good finisher, of all of the big men)

His FT% helps him in these statistics despite his drives or fg% not being as high as some of the players on this list.
so now you went from best finisher to top 10. There you go as I said I don't have the numbers, but I'm sure the numbers would prove he wasn't the best

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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2866 on: July 24, 2017, 08:20:52 PM »
so now you went from best finisher to top 10. There you go as I said I don't have the numbers, but I'm sure the numbers would prove he wasn't the best
What did I tell you about Rose?  ;)
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2867 on: July 24, 2017, 08:21:45 PM »
Anyone have the latest line on Rose staying healthy for the entire 17-18 season?
even if he's healthy he doesn't complement lebron so they really can't have him in the court in crunch time. He basically will be running the team when lebron sits

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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2868 on: July 24, 2017, 08:22:49 PM »
Finishing in crunch time is what matters the most.
Lol. You're the only one having that discussion - the proverbial old man yelling at the clouds. Aside from the fact that clutchness is largely a myth - should I have saved that for Friday? ;D

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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2869 on: July 24, 2017, 08:23:27 PM »
even if he's healthy he doesn't complement lebron so they really can't have him in the court in crunch time. He basically will be running the team when lebron sits
So LBJ runs the team when he is on the floor? Is he a PG?  :)
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2870 on: July 24, 2017, 08:24:58 PM »
Aside from the fact that clutchness is largely a myth
definitely not a myth

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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2871 on: July 24, 2017, 08:25:14 PM »
Lol. You're the only one having that discussion - the proverbial old man yelling at the clouds. Aside from the fact that clutchness is largely a myth - should I have saved that for Friday? ;D
Many claimed what a great finisher he is. I am trying to figure out what they are talking about. The only thing I got so far is he can change hands.
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2872 on: July 24, 2017, 08:25:41 PM »
So LBJ runs the team when he is on the floor? Is he a PG?  :)
no

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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2873 on: July 24, 2017, 08:26:48 PM »
no
1st question, 2nd question or both?
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2874 on: July 24, 2017, 08:26:56 PM »
Many claimed what a great finisher he is. I am trying to figure out what they are talking about. The only thing I got so far is he can change hands.
Exactly. You're talking about finishing the game, and they're talking about finishing a drive with points.

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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2875 on: July 24, 2017, 08:29:22 PM »
...and they're talking about finishing a drive with points.
Then their own stats they used says he isn't or did I miss something?
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2876 on: July 24, 2017, 08:29:34 PM »
1st question, 2nd question or both?
No to the second. but yes the offense does run through lebron obviously

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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2877 on: July 24, 2017, 08:31:14 PM »
No to the second. but yes the offense does run through lebron obviously
So the PG doesn't run the offense? This is why need some ground rules.
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2878 on: July 24, 2017, 08:32:09 PM »
Then their own stats they used says he isn't or did I miss something?
It's okay to go back and reread a few times if you didn't follow. Pay attention to who says what.

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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #2879 on: July 24, 2017, 08:34:02 PM »
So the PG doesn't run the offense? This is why need some ground rules.
you claim to be a basketball expert and don't know what a point guard is?? Technically lbj is a pg but officially he is not if that makes any sense