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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5920 on: February 08, 2023, 12:06:52 PM »
What is so ludicrous?

By that logic I am a better athlete than 95% of Olympic athletes because I never lost!
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5921 on: February 08, 2023, 12:08:37 PM »
Tom Brady has more Super Bowl losses than Peyton Manning
Would Brady be the GOAT if his SB record was 3-7 instead of 7-3? Would it change the discussion?
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5922 on: February 08, 2023, 12:10:55 PM »

I have no idea what logic you are talking about. It is fair question which you have problem answering.
Should we ask the Minnesota Vikings or maybe Fran Tarkenton?
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5923 on: February 08, 2023, 12:22:26 PM »
I have no idea what logic you are talking about. It is fair question which you have problem answering.
Should we ask the Minnesota Vikings or maybe Fran Tarkenton?
The question is so warped and twisted to fit the MJ storyline I do have a problem answering it.

Any other competition in the world it's better to make it as far as you can even if you lose in the end.

I have no idea what twisted logic could possibly dictate otherwise.

Besides of course the fact that MJ fans want to argue he's perfect for going 6 and 6 in the finals.
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5924 on: February 08, 2023, 12:25:57 PM »
The question is so warped and twisted to fit the MJ storyline I do have a problem answering it.

Any other competition in the world it's better to make it as far as you can even if you lose in the end.

I have no idea what twisted logic could possibly dictate otherwise.

Besides of course the fact that MJ fans want to argue he's perfect for going 6 and 6 in the finals.
You have to be one of the best teams to make it to the finals. If you have a terrible record in the finals should that matter? Should your overall performance in the finals matter?
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5925 on: February 08, 2023, 12:29:58 PM »
When you want to consider some one as the GOAT you just can't ignore the things that are a negative.
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5926 on: February 08, 2023, 12:32:11 PM »
You have to be one of the best teams to make it to the finals. If you have a terrible record in the finals should that matter? Should your overall performance in the finals matter?
1. Best teams or have one player lifting a bad team up.

2. Yes.

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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5927 on: February 08, 2023, 12:38:54 PM »
...or have one player lifting a bad team up.
No such thing. One player team will never make it to the finals let alone win a championship.
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5928 on: February 08, 2023, 12:39:44 PM »
2. Yes.

3. Yes.
These would be both negatives for LBJ?
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5929 on: February 08, 2023, 12:46:33 PM »
One player team will never make it to the finals let alone win a championship.
I think Lebron did this in 2007, 2015, & 2017.

These would be both negatives for LBJ?
Yes. As is Jordan not making the finals 9x is a negative for him.
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5930 on: February 08, 2023, 12:51:20 PM »
I think Lebron did this in 2007, 2015, & 2017.
That is your heart talking and not your head.
Yes. As is Jordan not making the finals 9x is a negative for him.
Fair enough. I think it goes without saying winning is more important and that is no contest.

Now how about over all? Nod goes to 6-0 or 4-6?
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5931 on: February 08, 2023, 12:54:19 PM »
Now how about over all? Nod goes to 6-0-9 or 4-6-9?
I think something like that is more honest, showing how many years they didn't make it to the finals at all.
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5932 on: February 08, 2023, 12:58:51 PM »
I think something like that is more honest, showing how many years they didn't make it to the finals at all.
I never heard the argument for any GOAT about not making it to the finals.
But let's forget that and go with your figures. Who gets the nod?
ETA: Just to show I am fair, if MJ went 0-6 he would not even be in the discussion.
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5933 on: February 08, 2023, 01:26:44 PM »
I never heard the argument for any GOAT about not making it to the finals.
But let's forget that and go with your figures. Who gets the nod?
ETA: Just to show I am fair, if MJ went 0-6 he would not even be in the discussion.
Gets the nod for better finals record?

MJ I think.
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5934 on: February 08, 2023, 01:36:26 PM »
Gets the nod for better finals record?
Who gets the nod for overall finals as you like to call it, wins, losses and appearances.

IMHO making the finals and losing is a big negative in the GOAT discussion.

Brady is a great example which everyone left alone.  :)
Would Brady be the GOAT if his SB record was 3-7 instead of 7-3? Would it change the discussion?
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5935 on: February 08, 2023, 01:51:51 PM »
Would Brady be the GOAT if his SB record was 3-7 instead of 7-3? Would it change the discussion?
Yes, handily. It would change the discussion though.
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5936 on: February 08, 2023, 01:57:03 PM »
Yes, handily.
I disagree with "handily" 
I hope they don't go by his last two years like some are trying to do with MJ.  ;)
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5937 on: February 08, 2023, 01:58:02 PM »
I disagree with "handily" 
I hope they don't go by his last two years like some are trying to do with MJ.  ;)
Are you comparing Brady with the Bucs to MJ with the Wizards!? Because I am ready to do that if you wish.
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5938 on: February 08, 2023, 02:00:58 PM »
Who gets the nod for overall finals as you like to call it, wins, losses and appearances.

IMHO making the finals and losing is a big negative in the GOAT discussion.

Brady is a great example which everyone left alone.  :)
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Re: NBA Master Thread
« Reply #5939 on: February 08, 2023, 02:03:26 PM »
Are you comparing Brady with the Bucs to MJ with the Wizards!? Because I am ready to do that if you wish.
I am comparing how both ended their careers.
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