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Re: The lady ate the bread
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2010, 12:10:18 AM »
 
(in the sheila from the lady was soppossed to say instead of A lady made a neder that in the next 30 days from now she won't "eat bread". eat "this bread" cause a neder is only on a cheftsa not on a gavra and a shevuah is on a gavra and im not sure tha a husband can be mayfer a shevuah)
It's a machlokes Rishonim if a neder beloshon Shvua can work many Rishonim are of the opinion that it can as long as the person states Harey alay

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Re: The lady ate the bread
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2010, 01:31:31 AM »
The toisfos I didn't mention, otherwise there is no question here.

But don't compare to ben soirer umoirer.

Toisfos talks about gittin.

Ps: not too convinced that her neder is problematic.

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Re: The lady ate the bread
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2010, 12:06:36 AM »
Superflyer I think its time to spill the beans and tell us where the toisfes is!! And I don't understand why the sheila of a ben soirer is different actually I think its more of a never ending then the lady think it over and you will get it if not jut let me know I'll explain
 

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Re: The lady ate the bread
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2010, 10:57:16 AM »
I believe I found the Toisfes!!!!

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Re: The lady ate the bread
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2010, 12:55:26 PM »
  עי' תוספות גיטין דף פ"ג ד"ה ועמדה
This might be the Tosfos he meant. V'ulay yesh L'chalek.
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Re: The lady ate the bread
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2010, 12:31:53 AM »
I'm pretty sure I've come across a Rambam that states that one cannot include an issur in a tnai either way. Because since being over an issur is not an option (oficially), then the tnai is bottel.
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Re: The lady ate the bread
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2010, 03:38:13 PM »
Elikay is correct! Bravo !

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Re: The lady ate the bread
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2010, 07:56:41 PM »
Yay!!!!! Anything else up your sleeve?

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Re: The lady ate the bread
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2010, 04:20:40 AM »
Alright, I think I came up with something, I will make a new post.

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Re: The lady ate the bread
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Re: The lady ate the bread
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2010, 10:27:43 PM »