minyan while flying

[mclovin]

depending on what flight you take but you can fly to zrh, bru or lhr and if you have enough time go to a shul for a minyan

which flight would make it not missing shachris, mincha, or maariv?

[yare]

Reb moshe feinstein said ppl sud daven in their seats on a plane

I think the OP wants a flight that he does not have to come in that situation.

i believe he meant l'chatchila

[smart brit]

which flight would make it not missing shachris, mincha, or maariv?

if you fly the 930pm flight to London you can daven mariv here scharit and mincha in London and mariv in tlv.
Flying to zrh /bru this time of the year you will miss mariv/unless there is a minyan on the plane but scharit would be in zrh and mincha in tlv

[Dan]

In ZRH there was a massive maariv in the terminal.

[smart brit]

In ZRH there was a massive maariv in the terminal.

+1 But I was referring to the ly flight 12pm.

[mclovin]

if you fly the 930pm flight to London you can daven mariv here scharit and mincha in London and mariv in tlv.
Flying to zrh /bru this time of the year you will miss mariv/unless there is a minyan on the plane but scharit would be in zrh and mincha in tlv

even to london this time of year would miss maariv unless there is one in the airport/plane

[smart brit]

even to london this time of year would miss maariv unless there is one in the airport/plane

or Howard beach

[Chaikel]

There is a long list of poskim that say it is assur to daven with a minyan on a plane. Someone even put out a sefer with all the teshuvos on this 1 question. Seems to me that when you come upstairs, they will have a bigger issue if you did daven with the minyan, than if you didn't.

I know that there are many people that haven't missed a minyan in x number of decades, and I'm extremely impressed with them, but as a jew the number 1 thing we have to do is what God wants us to do.

You can get a red-eye to London, and then the red eye to Israel, and you shouldn't have to daven on the plane

[sky121]

I know that there are many people that haven't missed a minyan in x number of decades, and I'm extremely impressed with them, but as a jew the number 1 thing we have to do is what God wants us to do.

+1

Sometimes "religion" gets in the way of religion.

[Achas Veachas]

There is a long list of poskim that say it is assur to daven with a minyan on a plane. Someone even put out a sefer with all the teshuvos on this 1 question. Seems to me that when you come upstairs, they will have a bigger issue if you did daven with the minyan, than if you didn't.

I know that there are many people that haven't missed a minyan in x number of decades, and I'm extremely impressed with them, but as a jew the number 1 thing we have to do is what God wants us to do.

You can get a red-eye to London, and then the red eye to Israel, and you shouldn't have to daven on the plane

In that case, the job of an Ehrliche Yid id to find a flight that allows you to Daven with a Minyan.
Heard a story about a Yid who came to his Rov and asked him, is it true that one is not obligated to lay out money for Kibbud Av? the Rov asked him what's the case? So the Yid told him he has an older father who lives in a different town and needs his help, but train fare is expensive (and no reward availability ) So the Rov answered "you are right, you are not obligated to spend money for a train ticket, you can walk"

[smart brit]

There is a long list of poskim that say it is assur to daven with a minyan on a plane. Someone even put out a sefer with all the teshuvos on this 1 question. Seems to me that when you come upstairs, they will have a bigger issue if you did daven with the minyan, than if you didn't.

I know that there are many people that haven't missed a minyan in x number of decades, and I'm extremely impressed with them, but as a jew the number 1 thing we have to do is what God wants us to do.

You can get a red-eye to London, and then the red eye to Israel, and you shouldn't have to daven on the plane

+1
But sometimes someone wants to daven for the amud as he is l'a a ovel

[Chaikel]

+1
But sometimes someone wants to daven for the amud as he is l'a a ovel

I'm no expert, but it might be a bigger zechus for the niftar if he didnt

[yuneeq]

+1
But sometimes someone wants to daven for the amud as he is l'a a ovel

I believe that this is the OP's intent as most people wouldn't go out of their way to daven with a minyan. IMHO, it wouldn't be assur as the long as the FA's are fine with it.

[YOSEF]

In that case, the job of an Ehrliche Yid id to find a flight that allows you to Daven with a Minyan.

I'm assuming that it would be more than 36 minutes out of someones way, so they would probably be patur.

[Galitzyaner]

I believe that this is the OP's intent as most people wouldn't go out of their way to daven with a minyan. IMHO, it wouldn't be assur as the long as the FA's are fine with it.

So are you saying that the etzem issur is toluy (not on the safety or kavanah, but) on the attitudes or moods of the FA's??!! 
It's flexible?!

[Ergel]

So are you saying that the etzem issur is toluy (not on the safety or kavanah, but) on the attitudes or moods of the FA's??!! 
It's flexible?!

Sometimes you crack me up

[Nitantnel]

In that case, the job of an Ehrliche Yid id to find a flight that allows you to Daven with a Minyan.
Heard a story about a Yid who came to his Rov and asked him, is it true that one is not obligated to lay out money for Kibbud Av? the Rov asked him what's the case? So the Yid told him he has an older father who lives in a different town and needs his help, but train fare is expensive (and no reward availability ) So the Rov answered "you are right, you are not obligated to spend money for a train ticket, you can walk"

The Rov = Reb Chiam Brisker

[ckmk47]

I was under impression that the assur of davening on a plane was because of bothering everyone and causing a chilul hashem.  I once asked the stewardess if we could daven and if so where.  She was very nice and told me where to organize it.

[moish]

There is a long list of poskim that say it is assur to daven with a minyan on a plane. Someone even put out a sefer with all the teshuvos on this 1 question. Seems to me that when you come upstairs, they will have a bigger issue if you did daven with the minyan, than if you didn't.

i recall reading r' shmuel vozners psak when elal distributed it with the mehadrin meal, that one shouldnt make a minyan by congregating in the back of the plane, rather work it out in a way that 10 people should make a minyan by sitting near each other. but he didnt say you shouldnt daven with a minyan. i havent seen the psak in a while so i might be mistaken, but im pretty sure that was the gist of it.

[moish]

I was under impression that the assur of davening on a plane was because of bothering everyone and causing a chilul hashem.  I once asked the stewardess if we could daven and if so where.  She was very nice and told me where to organize it.

i highly doubt anyone would asser on that basis.