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Formatting Microsoft Word
« on: April 29, 2013, 09:56:56 PM »
I have Word 2003. When I write in Hebrew, if I change the footnotes from right to left or if I change the font of the footnotes, each time I add a footnote, I have to reformat that footnote. How do I format it, that each time i add a footnote it should automatically format the way i want it to?
Thank you so much!
You'll save me a lot of time!

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2013, 10:04:13 PM »
Find "styles", (I assume it is in the "Format" menu or "toolbar", find the "footnote" style, right click to modify it, and choose the settings you want.
Sorry I can't take you through it step by step, it has been a long time since I looked at 2003, so I don't remember where everything is.

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2013, 10:21:08 PM »
Find "styles", (I assume it is in the "Format" menu or "toolbar", find the "footnote" style, right click to modify it, and choose the settings you want.
Sorry I can't take you through it step by step, it has been a long time since I looked at 2003, so I don't remember where everything is.
Thank you. But I still can't figure it out. Can anyone else help me? Thank you.

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2013, 10:28:18 PM »
There's a format painter you can use to make them all the same, your best bet for this really is davka, its way better than word for hebrew typing etc

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2013, 10:33:25 PM »
There's a format painter you can use to make them all the same, your best bet for this really is davka, its way better than word for hebrew typing etc
Is there a way to get it inexpensively?
Also can I copy and paste e/t I typed in Word into Davka?


Also is there a program that teaches Hebrew typing?

Thank you very much!

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2013, 10:34:18 PM »
yes, i believe educational program or something, its not that expensive to begin with.
yes
yes many programs.

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2013, 11:22:31 PM »

yes many programs.
where can i find them?
Free online?

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2013, 12:08:21 AM »
where can i find them?
Free online?
im sure there are plenty free online... For english there are many...

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2013, 12:14:07 AM »
im sure there are plenty free online... For english there are many...
I've found many English. I can't find Hebrew.

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2013, 12:14:55 AM »
I've found many English. I can't find Hebrew.
check if some english ones have "language" settings...

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2013, 12:16:53 AM »
check "Rapid typing"
confirmed, it has hebrew and is free

eta,

 ooops, it does have hebrew interface, but not hebrew typing lessons
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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2013, 12:37:23 AM »
Thank you. But I still can't figure it out. Can anyone else help me? Thank you.
I hijacked a colleague's computer with MS Word 2003.
Here goes:
In the "format" menu, click "styles and formatting".
In the sidebar that pops up, at the bottom where it says "show", select "all styles".
Scroll through the styles and see if there is one called "footnote".
(If not, select "new style" near the top of the sidebar, and create a style called "footnote".)
Right click on the style "footnote" and click "modify".
On the bottom left of the pop-up there is a button "format" which opens a menu to control all the various formatting options.
(Hebrew fonts are under "complex scripts" in the font box, and right-to-left options are in the paragraph box.)

Once you set this all up,  every time you type in the footnote, just make sure the "footnote" style is selected. (This is controlled via the pull down list which appears next to the font pull down list.)

Hope this helps.
P.S. Anyone who doesn't know how to work with styles is missing out on a lot of the convenience that MS Word has to offer.
It is the דרך ארוכה וקצרה.

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2013, 01:02:59 AM »
I hijacked a colleague's computer with MS Word 2003.
Here goes:
In the "format" menu, click "styles and formatting".
In the sidebar that pops up, at the bottom where it says "show", select "all styles".
Scroll through the styles and see if there is one called "footnote".
(If not, select "new style" near the top of the sidebar, and create a style called "footnote".)
Right click on the style "footnote" and click "modify".
On the bottom left of the pop-up there is a button "format" which opens a menu to control all the various formatting options.
(Hebrew fonts are under "complex scripts" in the font box, and right-to-left options are in the paragraph box.)

Once you set this all up,  every time you type in the footnote, just make sure the "footnote" style is selected. (This is controlled via the pull down list which appears next to the font pull down list.)

Hope this helps.
P.S. Anyone who doesn't know how to work with styles is missing out on a lot of the convenience that MS Word has to offer.
It is the דרך ארוכה וקצרה.
Thank you very very much!
I still can't format right to left for some reason, it doesn't let me  :(
« Last Edit: April 30, 2013, 01:08:41 AM by Baruch »

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2013, 01:04:36 AM »
Thank you very very much!
I still can'f format right to left for some reason, it doesn't let me  :(
why not.
Is it missing, or just greyed out?

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2013, 01:09:36 AM »
why not.
Is it missing, or just greyed out?
greyed

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2013, 01:15:17 AM »
greyed
That is probably because the new footnote style is based on the "normal" style, which is left-to-right, so MS Word forces the new style to be the same in that respect.
Typical Microsoft, they need to knock something stupid into every useful idea.
There is definitely a way around this, I just have to get back on to that computer to remind myself how it is done, and the I will post back here.

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2013, 07:10:41 AM »
Two questions:
1. The documents you are creating, are they in Hebrew above the footnotes as well?
2. Is this more about editing past documents you already created, or more about future documents that you will create?

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2013, 02:12:46 PM »
Two questions:
1. The documents you are creating, are they in Hebrew above the footnotes as well?
2. Is this more about editing past documents you already created, or more about future documents that you will create?
1. The footnotes and main text are all in Hebrew.
2. Future documents

Thank you!!!

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2013, 07:08:01 PM »
As I mentioned in an earlier post, all the Styles are based on the "normal" style, and MS Word forces all other styles to have the same paragraph direction. All you need to do is change the paragraph direction of the "Normal" style, and everything else changes along with it.

In the "format" menu, click "styles and formatting".
In the sidebar that pops up, right click on the style "Normal" and click "modify".
On the bottom left of the pop-up there is a button "format" which opens a menu to control all the various formatting options.
Change the right-to-left options in the paragraph box - it should not be greyed out.

In order to avoid having to do this to every document, you want to save this to a template.
If you are fine doing this in the default Word template, open a New document, and do the above. Locate your "Normal.dot" file, and overwrite it with the document you just created. ["Save as", and select file type *.DOT (template), not *.DOC (document) - save it as "normal.dot" in the same location as your current "normal.dot".]
If you want to keep the default template as is, (for your English files,) then save your file as a separate *.DOT file. To create a shortcut to open new documents based on this alternate template, follow the instructions here.

Good luck!

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Re: Formatting Microsoft Word
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2013, 12:10:41 AM »
Thanks a million!