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WeightUSPSUPSFedEx
13oz and UnderItems under 13oz are usually able to be shipped USPS First Class Mail. By far this is the cheapest option.
Weekly Pickup CostUPS charges $22 for weekly pickups - if you are not shipping with your own UPS account (e.g. Amazons account) If you ship with your own account at least $75 weekly then the fee is $11.It is about the same rates as UPS.
Who Pays When Refusing a packageNo oneShipperShipper
Ship to a PO box?YesNoNo

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Knowing which shipping service to use and when could be tricky. It depends on items weight, how fast needed to be delivered, contents value.

Here are 2 free tools I found that can answer many of the pricing questions on this thread:
1. Fitshipper is for when you know the delivery address, size & weight.    2. Fitshipper for listings is when you are not your sure of the destination (eBay etc.).



Items 1-5lbs is when it gets tricky.

For Fedex and UPS there is a Home Delivery charge of about $3 for all shipments that are delivered to a residential address.  This is what will usually make the rates with Fedex or UPS a lot higher than USPS Priority (on low weight packages)

The base rate - commercial address for shipping zone 1, 1lb with Fedex is $6.65, with USPS it's $5.05

With Fedex or UPS the rate increased much less per additional lb

Shipping Insurance with Fedex/UPS is a lot cheaper than USPS. This will be a key factor on deciding when to use USPS over Fedex

Direct Signature Requirement comes standard with $300 of USPS Insurance, and $500 of Fedex insurance

For Decently priced USPS labels see this post  Or this updated 8/2/21.

Latest 1/10/22 the best labels so far.
For insane rates.
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=28357.msg2538377#msg2538377


Q: Under 1lb what is the best service to use?
Typically USPS Priority Mail

Q: What is flat rate? When will it give you the best price?
Flat Rate is a specific size box that does not have a weight limit, and has the same rate for most of USA. Usually this will be the cheapest when shipping to the farthest zone.

Do all companys offer flat rate?
USPS has the best flat rate service. Fedex offers "One Rate" but that will only be a savings on Express shipments. If you have discounted rates with Fedex, the "One Rates" will not be cheaper, unless the box is heavy.

Q: If you don't have a shipping scale available, what would be the best website to find out the weight of a specific product?
Amazon has the shipping weight for most items. Add an additional lb or 2 for the weight of the box.

Q:When shipping to an apt building, will the package gets left in the hallway of by the recipients door?
A:It depends on the delivery driver. I would recommend requiring a signature when shipping to an apartment so that it will not get left outside.

Q:If USPS loses a package that wasn't insured, has tracking code. Can I get money from them?
A:$100 of insurance is included in Priority Mail Express service.
$50 insurance is included in Priority Mail service.
https://www.usps.com/ship/insurance-and-extra-services.htm

Q:What Carrier is the cheapest to send packages 1LB - 5LB NY to Canada?
USPS Priority likely will be the cheapest. If you have discounted rates with Fedex or UPS they may be cheaper.

Q:Items that I am shipping that the item is packaged in a box; is it necessary to put it in a shipping box or a shipping bag is good enough?
A:Depends what you are shipping. A bag is fine for items that wont get damaged in a bag. I use a bag all the time for such items.

I buy small boxes at Uline, its about $0.30 for a 7x4x4 - which in dimensional weight its 1lb.

You could also consider bubble envelopes ...

Q:How well priced is amazon shipping?
For having inventory shipped to Amazon using their UPS account, by far that is the cheapest option. For having an item shipped to a customer using Amazons shipping rates, they are not the best rates. If you ship enough to get discounted rates with UPS of Fedex you will be bettor off using your own account.

Q: How much does it cost for UPS Pickup?
UPS charges $22 for weekly pickups - if you are not shipping with your own UPS account (e.g. Amazons account) If you ship with your own account at least $75 weekly then the fee is $11.
It is about the same rates with Fedex.

How Much is pickup for one package?

Q: How can I get around it? Flag down a driver
Flagging a driver down not necessarily is the best way around the daily pickup fee. If you are shipping daily for the convenience it should be worth to have a daily pickup.
With Fedex if you do not have an daily pickup and give the packages to a driver you will be charged $3 per box.
Additionaly many drivers do not like accepting packages from people that do not have a daily pickup, as they have to save room on their truck for their daily pickup customers.


Q: What Are the flat rate sizes?
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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #760 on: June 14, 2021, 06:34:55 PM »
Shipping Guru gets people to sell his labels. He gets great rates from shippo because he uses a lot of labels per month. Its definitely a little shady but I do believe they are legit labels.
If he gets great rates from them then why is he shady?
What does it say on the label in that spot? Com plus or com base?


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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #761 on: June 14, 2021, 06:37:11 PM »
I used one of the guys mentioned here. I stopped using him. I believe its fraud. They modify labels. No way the usps gives this kind of discount, although my packages all arrived and I cant explain from where they get access to tracking numbers. But I believe its straight out fraud.

I encourage you to contact shippo and ask if these labels are legit.

If you have a label printer and If you look closely on the labels you will see that the delivery address is a different shade then the rest of the label, its just a pdf editor job. You can find a bunch of these on fiverr. com from people in Nigeria. Please explain how someone in Nigeria has access to usps.
Read the description what they write.
Ill tell you. They buy a 4 OZ first class label and modify it to say priority mail.

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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #762 on: June 14, 2021, 06:39:53 PM »
Shipping Guru gets people to sell his labels. He gets great rates from shippo because he uses a lot of labels per month. Its definitely a little shady but I do believe they are legit labels.

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@myi Said he charges $2 flat rate for FC (First class). I don't think Shippo charges that low even if you print a lot with them.
I have a direct number to someone at Shippo if someone wants to call them and ask them about these guys. (PM for the number)

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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #763 on: June 14, 2021, 06:53:03 PM »
If he gets great rates from them then why is he shady?
What does it say on the label in that spot? Com plus or com base?


Because I am not 100% sure and am basing off what he told me. I guess fraud is possible being that we are talking about usps...

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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #764 on: June 14, 2021, 06:54:20 PM »
Because I am not 100% sure and am basing off what he told me. I guess fraud is possible being that we are talking about usps...
@myi Said he charges $2 flat rate for FC (First class). I don't think Shippo charges that low even if you print a lot with them.
I have a direct number to someone at Shippo if someone wants to call them and ask them about these guys. (PM for the number)
Like I said I don't think Shippo charges that low.
I used Shippo during Coivd heavily so I have the direct number to someone at Shippo, if someone wants to call them.

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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #765 on: June 14, 2021, 06:55:52 PM »
ICom plus or com base?


That just stands for commercial plus pricing

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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #766 on: June 14, 2021, 06:57:52 PM »
That just stands for commercial plus pricing
That was my point. If it says Com Plus then he may actually be getting cheaper rates. If it says Com Base that means he's not getting any discounts. (other then the non-retail discount)

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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #767 on: June 14, 2021, 06:57:59 PM »
Someone had posted up thread a email conversation with shippo were shippo replied that these are fake labels

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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #768 on: June 14, 2021, 07:01:57 PM »
Someone had posted up thread a email conversation with shippo were shippo replied that these are fake labels
That was with instantlabels. No one has ever asked about shippingguru. Also no one asked about more than 1 label.
I am curious though as too what happened with that package...
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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #769 on: June 14, 2021, 07:08:11 PM »
That was with instantlabels. No one has ever asked about shippingguru. Also no one asked about more than 1 label.
I am curious though as too what happened with that package...
If one of them are fake then its safe to assume that the rest are fake.
To me its simple: Shippo does not charge such cheap rates, so that leaves two possibilities:
  • Fake Labels
  • Stolen Credit Cards

I don't see any other way that these guys can give you such cheap labels.

(I don't think anyone here wants to be a party to one of those two methods)
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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #770 on: June 16, 2021, 05:26:32 PM »
Ill tell you. They buy a 4 OZ first class label and modify it to say priority mail.
Its not it. Because when tracking a label on USPS, I can see the product type purchased and for the priority labels it shows priority

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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #771 on: June 16, 2021, 05:38:27 PM »
Its not it. Because when tracking a label on USPS, I can see the product type purchased and for the priority labels it shows priority
If one of them are fake then its safe to assume that the rest are fake.
To me its simple: Shippo does not charge such cheap rates, so that leaves two possibilities:
  • Fake Labels
  • Stolen Credit Cards

I don't see any other way that these guys can give you such cheap labels.

(I don't think anyone here wants to be a party to one of those two methods)
Then its option 2.

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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #774 on: June 16, 2021, 09:20:32 PM »

I don't know much about fiverr but wouldn't they stop these gigs if they are completely fake?

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« Reply #775 on: June 16, 2021, 10:03:23 PM »
They come back with a new account

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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #776 on: July 13, 2021, 04:38:05 AM »
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We are making changes to PayPal Shipping that we wanted to notify you of. Starting July 2021, we will be moving PayPal Shipping to a new platform powered by ShipStation, a third-party solution that specializes in shipping services.

The new shipping platform allows you to find the best option for each shipment by comparing rates across a selection of carriers and services.

Additionally, you will continue to have access to all the same features you have today, including:

Access to discounts on USPS and UPS labels
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You will need to connect your PayPal account to ShipStation the first time you use the new platform. To start, log onto your PayPal account, select start a shipping label order, and connect your account with ShipStation. You will need to select your shipping preferences after you connect to the new platform (your current settings will not be carried over).
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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #777 on: July 29, 2021, 06:41:49 PM »
can anyone recommend the best shipping rates to south africa?
for a small box

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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #778 on: August 05, 2021, 06:47:48 PM »
$5 5 pound
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$7 7 pound
$8 8 pound
$10 10 pound

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Re: **Shipping Master Thread** What service To Use When
« Reply #779 on: August 14, 2021, 11:54:46 AM »
Looks like that 'Label Labs' discord server that was shared sometime ago is shutting down.