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The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« on: May 05, 2013, 01:36:27 AM »

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2013, 01:46:11 AM »
He may not have said that after the whole Shabbos saga with Elal, at the time things may have been different. Just my 2 cents.

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2013, 02:01:03 AM »
I believe the Lubavitcher Rebbe was never on an airplane his entire life.

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2013, 02:04:08 AM »
I believe the Lubavitcher Rebbe was never on an airplane his entire life.
Was it a shita or just how things worked out?

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2013, 02:06:22 AM »
I believe the Lubavitcher Rebbe was never on an airplane his entire life.
The Lubavitcher Rebbe flew to France in 1947.

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2013, 02:08:26 AM »
The Lubavitcher Rebbe flew to France in 1947.

From where did he fly to France?.

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2013, 02:11:39 AM »
From where did he fly to France?.
NYC

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2013, 02:19:26 AM »
He may not have said that after the whole Shabbos saga with Elal, at the time things may have been different. Just my 2 cents.
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It says clearly what the reason is, and that reason should still apply today.
Though I'm not sure what the 'chazal' say on that pasuk

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2013, 02:23:26 AM »
NYC

France to NYC OR france - NYC - France?.

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2013, 02:25:40 AM »
The Rebbe was very practical, possibly the reason could be that 60 years ago ELAL had the best security in the industry and would be the only who would be able to take care of Jews if there was a problem............


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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2013, 02:40:59 AM »
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It says clearly what the reason is, and that reason should still apply today.
Though I'm not sure what the 'chazal' say on that pasuk
myad amisecha may well mean bosa maseh amcha, that was the chiluk I was making.

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2013, 03:29:04 AM »
The Rebbe was very practical, possibly the reason could be that 60 years ago ELAL had the best security in the industry and would be the only who would be able to take care of Jews if there was a problem............


Do they still have the best security?

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2013, 07:40:55 AM »
I believe the Lubavitcher Rebbe was never on an airplane his entire life.
FYI He did fly NYC to PAR 1948? to bring his mother to the US. they took the boat from paris to ny

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2013, 08:47:19 AM »
myad amisecha may well mean bosa maseh amcha, that was the chiluk I was making.
i dont understand, he says you should fly it bacuase of kneh meyad amisecha. there was never a time they were osei maasei amcha, certainly not more than they are now...

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2013, 09:39:07 AM »
i dont understand, he says you should fly it bacuase of kneh meyad amisecha. there was never a time they were osei maasei amcha, certainly not more than they are now...
That would be a kashya on what he said unless things were different back then. I have no clue what it was like back then I was just assuming, partially from what he said.

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2013, 10:11:17 AM »
myad amisecha may well mean bosa maseh amcha, that was the chiluk I was making.
In general, the Rebbe was not known to disqualify people due to  "עושי מעשה עמך".
In our generation, we are dealing with תינוקות שנשבו, and particularly back in תשט''ז, when so many people suffered through WW2 and in '48, who are we to judge?
I guess another way of saying this, when you see another איד, there is no question that he is עמיתך, whereas with regards to עושי מעשה עמך, it is only questionable whether he "qualifies", ואין ספק מוציא מידי ודאי.

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2013, 10:11:53 AM »
the rebbe flew American then from Paris to Nyc
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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2013, 10:31:03 AM »
LOLOLOLOL

This thread inspired me to Wikipedia Elal.
At the end of the section entitled "Incidents and accidents", which lists attempted hijackings, crashes, and shootings, appears the following lines:
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On 9 August 2012, airfares for flights to New York were erroneously listed at a steep discount (at $400 from the usual $1,600 price), with at least 5,000 tickets sold. A contractor responsible for posting the fares was believed responsible. The airline honored the tickets anyway.

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2013, 10:36:33 AM »
I am totally no t holding but I thought I read here on the forums that they used to be a Jewish company but they were privatized or something and therefore wouldn't necessarily have the status of מיד עמיתך

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Re: The Lubavitcher Rebbe on ELAL
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2013, 03:11:08 PM »
In our generation, we are dealing with תינוקות שנשבו,
in israel that's less clear...