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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2022, 07:25:14 PM »
Nice. Can Biden’s approval rating fall any lower if he ends up vetoing this?

If it passes, does it trickle all the way down or can states/cities/individual airlines keep mandating masks?

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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2022, 07:26:49 PM »
can states/cities/individual airlines keep mandating masks?
States and cities can't, but airlines can.
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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2022, 07:29:08 PM »
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/coronavirus/despite-cdc-dropping-indoor-mask-guidelines-transportation-mask-mandate-will-extended-yet/

Saw that and came here to discuss it. Conversations in DDMS comments are experientially weird (though the comments there are threaded, which is a preference of mine)

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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2022, 07:34:42 PM »
Nice. Can Biden’s approval rating fall any lower if he ends up vetoing this?

If it passes, does it trickle all the way down or can states/cities/individual airlines keep mandating masks?

Certainly individual airlines can mandate, but I'd bet they won't. They want to be done with this as much as many of us do.
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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2022, 07:54:51 PM »
Certainly individual airlines can mandate, but I'd bet they won't. They want to be done with this as much as many of us do.
What about the airline unions?
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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2022, 01:10:16 AM »
What about the airline unions?
Nelson and crew retracted their outspoken push for mask mandates. I guess enough FAs spoke up, A. As the people who wear masks the most, I guess they had enough. B. They probably don't want to be the mask police anymore.

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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2022, 10:20:49 PM »
Nelson and crew retracted their outspoken push for mask mandates. I guess enough FAs spoke up, A. As the people who wear masks the most, I guess they had enough. B. They probably don't want to be the mask police anymore.
Can't they just look the other way?
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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2022, 10:47:52 PM »
Can't they just look the other way?
Not like they can't just decide not to do part of their job without repercussions just like any other part.

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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2022, 07:39:40 AM »
Can't they just look the other way?
You want them to pick and choose which rules to enforce?
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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2022, 11:22:04 AM »
Can't they just look the other way?
Karen won't let

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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2022, 12:04:44 PM »
Karen won't let
Then we need more Karen's.
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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2022, 01:53:47 PM »
You want them to pick and choose which rules to enforce?
No, but @aygart said that they don't like being police, and I was wondering if that was actually an issue, especially because many FA's do look the other way...
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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2022, 01:58:20 PM »
Not like they can't just decide not to do part of their job without repercussions just like any other part.
Uber also officially requires it, and I ask the drivers straight up if they need me to put on a mask, they say no. Same with Lyft.
And in this story the FA was removed and they continued the flight. I was wondering how they did that because they were breaking federal law. However, many FA's look the other way, and I don't they have repercussions for that.
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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2022, 02:31:52 PM »
No, but @aygart said that they don't like being police, and I was wondering if that was actually an issue, especially because many FA's do look the other way...
They should do their job. If they can't or won't then they should find another job.

Look everyone is making an issue out of this because of politics.
How about not wearing your seatbelt? Just look the other way?
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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2022, 05:04:24 PM »
There is one point that is often overlooked in this debate, which hasn’t gotten much airtime. The airlines post these policies/laws when you book, and there are definitely some people, even if they’re a minority, who are booking with the expectation that mask wearing will be enforced. Even if it’s wrong, and even if you don’t like it, there is definitely an argument to be made that FAs *should* be enforcing these policies as long as they’re on the books, even if they shouldn’t be on the books in the first place.

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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2022, 05:38:10 PM »
Even if it’s wrong, and even if you don’t like it, there is definitely an argument to be made that FAs *should* be enforcing these policies as long as they’re on the books, even if they shouldn’t be on the books in the first place.
It is very simple. They should do there job and leave politics out of it.
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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2022, 10:34:15 PM »
They should do their job. If they can't or won't then they should find another job.

Look everyone is making an issue out of this because of politics.
How about not wearing your seatbelt? Just look the other way?
People are generally compliant with seatbelts, so FA´s won´t run into any issues with that. If it happened, I am not saying FAś should look the other way.

Aygart Said:
They probably don't want to be the mask police anymore.
So I was pointing out that many FA´s don´t enforce those rules anyway, so I feel like if they really hated being the police they can look the other way.
Are you trying to answer that they don´t look the other way because that wouldn´t be following the rules of their job? Or are you just upset becuase you think I am advocating for FA´s to only follow the rules they like?
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Re: senate votes to repeal mask mandate
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2022, 10:40:54 PM »
Even if it’s wrong, and even if you don’t like it, there is definitely an argument to be made that FAs *should* be enforcing these policies as long as they’re on the books, even if they shouldn’t be on the books in the first place.
I don´t disagree. There are definitely cases where I don´t think that´s true (for example, in ceratin cases, there were antisemitic laws, and officers helped Jews ´Break the law´, and are big heroes for that.) However, in this case, it is nothing of that spectrum, and although I think masks are stupid, and I hate wearing them, I think it makes sense for FA´s to enforce it. (If they don´t enforce it, I´ll gladly not wear one).
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