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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2013, 09:31:58 PM »
stealing time?
Are you serious? Stealing time?????

There is no such thing in halacha. Time is not a monetary object that can be removed from it's owners possession.

Ever hear of a civil court accusing someone of stealing time?

Calling the police might be a shaileh of mesirah.

I wonder if you'd say that if someone was squating in your home... Ask your LOR but R Elyashiv told one of my שבעה קרובים it's not even a question and to go to law enforcement, and this was in E"Y with all the shailos of Dina Dmelachusa and the squatter could end up in jail.
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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2013, 06:09:10 PM »
A can of motor oil on the windsheild works also.
this is the best. A taxi driver in israel got upset i closed his door to hard got out of the car and was a out to start a fight. Anyways every times i see him i am so tempted to throw eggs or do the oil on the windshield. 



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they kidnapp the kids for 10 yrs?!
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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2013, 06:09:46 PM »
Bit back to the original q. I would slice his tired prob.
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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2013, 06:35:25 PM »
IMHO it's stupid to do anything damaging to the vehicle because he knows where you live.
I usually call the police to ticket and tow him

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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2013, 07:24:50 PM »
It's not only drives ways that get blocked , mail boxes that are blocked in occasion will not get their mail .
Which I find very annoying as ppl don't take that into consideration at all!

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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2013, 07:31:40 PM »
this is the best. A taxi driver in israel got upset i closed his door to hard got out of the car and was a out to start a fight. Anyways every times i see him i am so tempted to throw eggs or do the oil on the windshield. 
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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2013, 09:16:53 PM »
Are you serious? Stealing time?????

There is no such thing in halacha. Time is not a monetary object that can be removed from it's owners possession.

Ever hear of a civil court accusing someone of stealing time?
I wonder if you'd say that if someone was squating in your home... Ask your LOR but R Elyashiv told one of my שבעה קרובים it's not even a question and to go to law enforcement, and this was in E"Y with all the shailos of Dina Dmelachusa and the squatter could end up in jail.

I know there is a halacha about גזל שינה to me that doesn't seem so far fetched from wasting someone's time. Though like you said in your second half, it is against the law to block someone's driveway so you have Dina Dmelachusa.
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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2013, 09:19:54 PM »

There is a chiyuv and 'point' to daven even if RCH"L the davening will not be heard


Is the chiyuv if it's at the expense of someone else??
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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2013, 09:21:40 PM »
I know there is a halacha about גזל שינה to me that doesn't seem so far fetched from wasting someone's time. Though like you said in your second half, it is against the law to block someone's driveway so you have Dina Dmelachusa.
Contrary to common thought, גזל שינה isn't halchically gezel rather it's a mussar ideal.

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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2013, 10:11:34 PM »
@972sg212:
Did you ask a rav for a heter to call the police?

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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2013, 10:29:20 PM »
Source?

I ain't no rabbi, but why wouldn't this be a simple case of mitzvah habah b'aveira?
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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2013, 10:36:46 PM »
@972sg212:
Did you ask a rav for a heter to call the police?

@lfas25
There's no halacha of gezel shina.

I'm not a rabbi.. I was just guessing.
I'm sure my father would have a long discussion with anyone about this. (though it would be more likely to happen in BMG then online)
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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2013, 10:51:38 PM »
I ain't no rabbi, but why wouldn't this be a simple case of mitzvah habah b'aveira?

Which one? Could be zeh nena vzeh lo chassur if the guy doesnt have to get out right away

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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2013, 11:06:44 PM »
I ain't no rabbi, but why wouldn't this be a simple case of mitzvah habah b'aveira?
No. Halachicaly it doesn't work like that. Even when there is a direct result of an aveira it isn't always a problem, for sure over here.

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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2013, 12:40:29 AM »
this is the best. A taxi driver in israel got upset i closed his door to hard got out of the car and was a out to start a fight. Anyways every times i see him i am so tempted to throw eggs or do the oil on the windshield. 
they kidnapp the kids for 10 yrs?!
+100 , they get so pissed when u slam the door of their farcockedeh skoda


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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2013, 12:55:10 AM »
Contrary to common thought, גזל שינה isn't halchically gezel rather it's a mussar ideal.
Source?
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Re: Watta You Do When Someone Blocks Your Driveway?
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2013, 12:58:42 AM »
Source for what?
Cite me any halachic source for gezel shinah.
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