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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #100 on: June 14, 2013, 02:30:28 AM »
Does it have to be a ring? What about someone that does not where rings?
Then she is ostracized never to show her face again.

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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #101 on: June 14, 2013, 03:03:15 AM »
Then she is ostracized never to show her face again.
Are you being serious?
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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #102 on: June 14, 2013, 03:32:43 AM »
My Hubby and I been married for more than 12 yrs. We did not have a big wedding like everyone else
nor did I aks or get  an engagement ring before our wedding. :(
But I got a house ... or should I say we bought a house few months after we got married.
Then out of the blue a few years ago, my husband decided to give me an engagement ring worth 5K+  ;)
My own opinion... " it is all about your priorities in life.  :)

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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #103 on: June 14, 2013, 09:49:33 AM »
Are you being serious?
Nah we just kill her

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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #104 on: June 14, 2013, 11:42:41 AM »
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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #105 on: June 14, 2013, 12:02:32 PM »
Not cool.
Sorry couldn't come up with a better response :-[

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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #106 on: June 14, 2013, 12:03:32 PM »
Sorry couldn't come up with a better response :-[
How about just a yes or no?
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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #107 on: June 14, 2013, 12:06:10 PM »
How about just a yes or no?
+1

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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #108 on: June 14, 2013, 12:08:22 PM »
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@CV I'm sure you know many girls get their heads shaved. I guess if the girls have to learn to dig beards it's only fair the guy should have to like baldness :)
I have no idea if your joking or not.
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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #109 on: June 14, 2013, 12:12:15 PM »
I have no idea if your joking or not.
He's not ... But mine won't!
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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #110 on: June 14, 2013, 12:13:31 PM »
How about just a yes or no?
Did you really think girls are forced to like jewelry?

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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #111 on: June 14, 2013, 12:23:16 PM »
Keep in mind, that often the difference between a $2,000 diamond and a $4,000 diamond for example could be small imperfections that can only be seen under 10X magnification.
This explains the ratings for one of the C's, Clarity.
2 guys can each buy diamonds for drastically different prices with the only difference being that one is a VVS1 and the other is a SI2 but both look identical to the naked eye.

The thing to be aware of is that depending on where the inclusion is it may or may not affect the way light is reflected. Be careful to avoid fractures unless you know that it won't spread causing the diamond to crack.

Diamonds are rediculously overpriced at an inflated value as it is, no sense paying $1-2K extra so that if someone pulls out a loop they won't see a small black dot in it!

You can get a J colored SI2 and most people won't be able to tell it apart from a G colored VVS1.

No one really inspects your diamond ring other than when you get engaged! It's silly to spend thousands extra (especially if you don't have it!) to get 1/2 carat larger and more flawless under 10X mag. Unless you have the money to waste and don't mind throwing it away on a rock :)Exactly my point! Who is looking through loops at your ring other than the day it's bought?

+1! Some people have started doing that in this economy!
The only reason not too is because she will feel bad since all her friends are getting real ones etc.
One of those things in the frum world where we spend money just because everyone else is doing it.

I hear your point about giving something of value, but in this economy where many people just don't have the $$, there are a lot of chasunah expenses that are over the top but just needed because that's what's expected. A ring is not the only expensive gift that needs to be given....
As far as the giving something of value, starting a savings account for a down payment etc should be (in a practical world) a better way to start off the marriage then thousands of $$'s of jewelery.
Don't think I didn't buy all the required things when I got married - I did. But the money can definitely be better spent/saved (hope my wife isn't reading this lol).
I've always said when attending fancy weddings where $10's of thousands of dollars over what a basic wedding costs are blown in one night that it would be much more beneficial to the couple to have a basic wedding and a savings acccount with $20K instead of an over the top extravagant wedding where it is all blown on one fancy night.
An example would be a wedding dress. Some people rent from a gemach for $300 and some spend $2K-4K$ buying a dress which then sits in their closet for years getting yellow. Both have very happy weddings and happy marriages but the one who lost $4K on a dress isn't any better off for it!

Part of the 'problem' is that you only get married once. So all commen sense goes out the window. You can talk from today until tomorrow about what makes sense and is practical but at the end of the day no girl wants to be the only one of her friends getting a CZ or having a 'below accepted standards' wedding.

Just saw these posts now, but +100

Well, everything except for the bolded part. That depends on the woman you marry, her level of maturity, her ability to sacrifice, and priorities.
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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #112 on: June 14, 2013, 12:26:56 PM »
Did you really think girls are forced to like jewelry?
It seems very plausible to me for it to be frowned upon if a girl/guy did not wear a wedding ring/band. I have seen this first hand.  ;)
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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #113 on: June 14, 2013, 12:29:35 PM »
It seems very plausible to me for it to be frowned upon if a girl/guy did not wear a wedding ring/band. I have seen this first hand.  ;)

More in the secular world though, no?
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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #114 on: June 14, 2013, 12:32:39 PM »
It seems very plausible to me for it to be frowned upon if a girl/guy did not wear a wedding ring/band. I have seen this first hand.  ;)
Wedding rings cost a helluva lot of money she should walk around with it?
BTW ultra-orthodox men do not wear jewelry with the exception of the girl buying him an expensive watch as to show how valuable time is.

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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #115 on: June 14, 2013, 12:35:28 PM »
More in the secular world though, no?
I was thinking just the opposite. Sort of like if the bride does not wear white. I don’t think you guys have that problem.  :)
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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #116 on: June 14, 2013, 12:36:54 PM »
Wedding rings cost a helluva lot of money she should walk around with it?
Does the girl wear her ring all the time?
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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #117 on: June 14, 2013, 12:39:13 PM »
Does the girl wear her ring all the time?
Most of them lock it up in a safe and only take it out for special occasions.
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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #118 on: June 14, 2013, 12:40:18 PM »
Most of them lock it up in a safe and only take it out for special occasions.
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Huh? Most people I know wear their diamond Engagement Ring all day everyday.

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Re: Engagement Rings
« Reply #119 on: June 14, 2013, 12:43:57 PM »
Wedding rings cost a helluva lot of money she should walk around with it?
BTW ultra-orthodox men do not wear jewelry with the exception of the girl buying him an expensive watch as to show how valuable time is.
Ohhh, is this why our parents buy our husbands $10,000 watches? I just thought it was a must do, I didn't think there was a "reason"..