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Re: MLB
« Reply #2595 on: November 03, 2017, 01:44:18 PM »
Fair, but say you gotta chose now given the numbers you have...
Judge because I already have Altuve.  :)
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2596 on: November 03, 2017, 02:00:45 PM »
Game tied in the bottom of the 9th and a runner on 2nd, player B every day of the week and twice on Sunday!!!
A) That's a super specific scenario, hardly anything you would use to measure the overall prowess of a hitter.
B) even in that super specific scenario, it would depend on the pitcher, the ball park, the defense and more, like does the higher batting average player also have a significantly higher babip?

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Re: MLB
« Reply #2597 on: November 03, 2017, 03:18:26 PM »
B) even in that super specific scenario, it would depend on the pitcher, the ball park, the defense and more, like does the higher batting average player also have a significantly higher babip?
If this game was played on paper I would agree but it isn't.
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2598 on: November 03, 2017, 03:23:52 PM »
If this game was played on paper I would agree but it isn't.
If you're picking player b based on batting average, why is that any less "paper" based decision making than looking at other more inclusive stats?
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2599 on: November 03, 2017, 03:24:03 PM »
If this game was played on paper I would agree but it isn't.
So because it's not played on paper, you choose to make your decision based on a different stat?
Player A:
.284   .422   .627 1.049 (Aaron Judge)

Player B:
.330   .380   .506   .885 (Avisail Garcia)
Game tied in the bottom of the 9th and a runner on 2nd, player B every day of the week and twice on Sunday!!!

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If you're picking player b based on batting average, why is that any less "paper" based decision making than looking at other more inclusive stats?
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2600 on: November 03, 2017, 03:25:53 PM »
If you're picking player b based on batting average, why is that any less "paper" based decision making than looking at other more inclusive stats?
The more stats you use the more of a paper decision it becomes.
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2601 on: November 03, 2017, 03:35:26 PM »
The more stats you use the more of a paper decision it becomes.
Ok, so knowing who the players are, bottom of the 9th, tie game, 2 outs, man on second. Last season (not looking ahead, as I know you're not sold on Judge):

Avisail Garcia or Aaron Judge?
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2602 on: November 03, 2017, 03:44:36 PM »
Ok, so knowing who the players are, bottom of the 9th, tie game, 2 outs, man on second. Last season (not looking ahead, as I know you're not sold on Judge):

Avisail Garcia or Aaron Judge?
Game tied in the bottom of the 9th and a runner on 2nd, player B every day of the week and twice on Sunday!!!
B = Garcia
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2603 on: November 03, 2017, 03:47:08 PM »
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2604 on: November 03, 2017, 03:51:49 PM »

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Re: MLB
« Reply #2605 on: November 03, 2017, 03:54:21 PM »
Next week it will be some killer weed but at the moment nothing.  :)
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« Reply #2606 on: November 03, 2017, 03:56:07 PM »
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2607 on: November 03, 2017, 04:46:04 PM »
So you are giving me the old guy? What's the bet?

Yeah, you get santana and i get Gray. Idk. Anyone have a good idea for a fun bet?

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Re: MLB
« Reply #2608 on: November 03, 2017, 04:49:17 PM »
ERA is just ok. I prefer fielding independent metrics - my favorite is Siera. ERA on its own doesn't normalize for babip luck, LOB luck, hr/fb luck. And it isn't park adjusted.

BA is terrible. It treats homers and singles the same, ignores positive outcomes like walks, isnt babip or hr/fb adjusted, and isn't park adjusted. Even just for measuring "contact ability", 1-k% is far more effective.

The other issue with ERA is unearned runs. I dont like the rules  regarding what’s considered an unearned run. For example if an error is made with 2 outs all runs he allows after are unearned even if he gives up 2 double and and a homer.

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Re: MLB
« Reply #2609 on: November 03, 2017, 04:51:54 PM »
Yeah, you get santana and i get Gray. Idk. Anyone have a good idea for a fun bet?
Milts seems the standard bet.
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