MLB Master Thread

[CountValentine]

It means that if you're discussing sports in advance of games, inherent is the understanding that the games have to be played. You keep repeating "the game isn't played on paper" like its some deep esoteric truth only you in your aged wisdom has figured out. It's tiresome. We get it. We watch the games and enjoy them just as much as you. Just because you are older and wish they didn't change pitchers as much doesn't mean my enjoyment of the game is worth less.

After your misleading post about the final scores, I pointed out that in a 7 game series almost all were tight going into the 7th inning.  Your response about me eating crow for saying that Cole, Verlander, Greinke, Sherzer, Strasburg, Corbin represented an historically great pitching matchup - which it did - is ludicrous.

If I made a prediction, like "Astros will win in 6" - sure, feed me the crow.

What is tiresome is all this talk about what it looks like on paper. Who cares what it looks like on paper? That is the why I keep saying the game is not played on paper!!!

Would you rather have a series that looks good on paper and turns out to be a dud. Or a dud on paper and turns out to be great?

I just want to see entertaining games. I would have loved to seen at least one great pitching duel (starters) but that didn't happen. Some claim last night was a pitching duel. How can it be a duel when one starter only went 5 innings and pitched like crap?

[CountValentine]

After your misleading post about the final scores...

Misleading? Those were the exact scores.
They were a good representation of how boring the series was. You disagree and that is fine but nothing was misleading on my part.

[Dawie]

@Yehuda57  To help the Count understand how we think

[shaulyaakov]

If you didn't think thst game through 7 was phenomenal, I don't know what you were watching.

[shaulyaakov]

Thr Astros have a mentality where they seem to shut down after they lose a lead, so yes the final score made it appear to be a relative blowout. No clue why the Astros didn't try to hold it there/bring in Cole etc.

They didn't win a single game this year in which they were trailing after the 8th.

[CountValentine]

If you didn't think thst game through 7 was phenomenal, I don't know what you were watching.

It was "phenomenal" as you put. If I do a Google search for greatest game 7's it will come up 1 or 2?  How about top 10? Maybe top 100? 

[CountValentine]

@Yehuda57  To help the Count understand how we think

I get it, it is all about paper stats. You know my answer to that so I won't even say it. 

[mercaz1]

What is tiresome is all this talk about what it looks like on paper. Who cares what it looks like on paper? That is the why I keep saying the game is not played on paper!!!

Would you rather have a series that looks good on paper and turns out to be a dud. Or a dud on paper and turns out to be great?

I just want to see entertaining games. I would have loved to seen at least one great pitching duel (starters) but that didn't happen. Some claim last night was a pitching duel. How can it be a duel when one starter only went 5 innings and pitched like crap?

part of your problem is that you think this is the 1980s
starting pitchers for the most part do not go more than 2-3 times the lineup
also Scherzer pitched a pretty good game till he came out and Grienke pitched great

[CountValentine]

part of your problem is that you think this is the 1980s
starting pitchers for the most part do not go more than 2-3 times the lineup
also Scherzer pitched a pretty good game till he came out and Grienke pitched great

Part of your problem is you don't know what good baseball is. 

also Scherzer pitched a pretty good game till he came out...

7 hits, 4 walks in 5 innings is a pretty good game? See my first comment.

[CountValentine]

Where would you all rank game 7 and the series? Sounds like you think both should be in the top ten of all time.

[mercaz1]

Part of your problem is you don't know what good baseball is.  :P7 hits, 4 walks in 5 innings is a pretty good game? See my first comment.

only 1 run
he was able to work out of any trouble

again you are not a fan of current baseball so you will not be happy until you realize that this is the new normal
you will almost never see a starting pitcher in the WS pitch more than 7 innings unless they are going for a no-hitter/ perfect game and even then they might get pulled based on the numbers

[Yonah]

I did not have a dog in this fight. Last nights game was a little exciting but other than the first game it sucked!!!
This was billed as these great pitching matchups. What happed there? I am not going to say who is eating crow on that one.

I was definitely among the people who thought that there would be great pitching matchups, and told people not to sleep on the nats because of their good pitching - clearly it didn't play out that way. But of the 4 games that the Nats won, they were tied or behind in the fifth inning and then took a lead and/or broke it open. For all the talk of the Astros bats - they didn't come through as much as we expected (or at least not with runners on base).

but it was compelling baseball. Not to mention, everyone likes a compelling underdog story.

[CountValentine]

only 1 run
he was able to work out of any trouble

again you are not a fan of current baseball so you will not be happy until you realize that this is the new normal
you will almost never see a starting pitcher in the WS pitch more than 7 innings unless they are going for a no-hitter/ perfect game and even then they might get pulled based on the numbers

2 runs but don't let facts get in the way.
The new norm is ruining baseball and is why Houston lost game 7.
How about any of you answer this simple question?

Where would you all rank game 7 and the series? Sounds like you think both should be in the top ten of all time.

[CountValentine]

Cole is warming up in the bullpen.

[mercaz1]

2 runs but don't let facts get in the way.
The new norm is ruining baseball and is why Houston lost game 7.
How about any of you answer this simple question?

The ratings definitely don't support the theory that this was an all time great series

Im not a huge baseball fan but try to watch playoffs and WS and I would not put this in the top 10
as far as the new norm ruining baseball I don't totally disagree with you. I think the new norm is great for winning a ton go games over the regular season but it needs to be old school baseball for the post-season