MLB Master Thread

[CountValentine]

Iiuc:

I'm not 100% sure if intent is required, I think not, but either way, it is a judgement call, and the ump can use their judgement to decide whether the fielder was interfered with. The fact that it was a infield fly means that nothing the runner did, even if he wanted to rugby tackle the fielder, would have cost the fielder. The ump had every right to not make the call even if it technically was interference.

Here is what I found, and it sounds like a no-brainer.

https://baseballrulesacademy.com/official-rule/mlb/infield-fly/
If interference is called during an Infield Fly, the ball remains alive until it is determined whether the ball is fair or foul. If fair, both the runner who interfered with the fielder and the batter are out.

[Euclid]

Here is what I found, and it sounds like a no-brainer.

https://baseballrulesacademy.com/official-rule/mlb/infield-fly/
If interference is called during an Infield Fly, the ball remains alive until it is determined whether the ball is fair or foul. If fair, both the runner who interfered with the fielder and the batter are out.

I wonder why that is. What loophole are they trying to prevent for?

[CountValentine]

I wonder why that is. What loophole are they trying to prevent for?

The runners can advance at their own risk. Maybe that has something to do with it.

[Euclid]

Angel Hernandez retired!

[Dan]

Angel Hernandez retired!

"Retired"

[Dan]

[Yehuda57]

https://x.com/PitchingNinja/status/1795276422673805693

[Euclid]

"Retired"

he finally made the first correct call of his career

[Euclid]

https://x.com/jomboymedia/status/1795283983837888865?s=46&t=jC91VPRJT6S9IGXghGk04w

[Yehuda57]

https://x.com/TalkinYanks/status/1795996585047839179

Similar play within a couple of days. Stupid.

[CountValentine]

Similar play within a couple of days. Stupid.

What is he arguing? That it wasn't interference because the fielder ran into the runner?

[Yehuda57]

What is he arguing? That it wasn't interference because the fielder ran into the runner?

We just had this argument, and the MLB clarified that I was correct. (Yes, they mentioned me by name) Even if it is technically interference, it's a judgment call that shouldn't have been made.

This is worse, imho, because Soto isn't just not intending to interfere, he tries not to, but he has to get to the base otherwise he gets tagged out. So what was he supposed to do?

Plus, the umps had to have known about the play the other day and the clarification. This is their job. When an oddity crops up, surely they are curious what should have happened.

[CountValentine]

We just had this argument, and the MLB clarified that I was correct.

Where is the clarification, I didn't see it.
I posted the rule, and it says the umps were correct.

ETA: Here is what I found:

Here is what I found, and it sounds like a no-brainer.

https://baseballrulesacademy.com/official-rule/mlb/infield-fly/
If interference is called during an Infield Fly, the ball remains alive until it is determined whether the ball is fair or foul. If fair, both the runner who interfered with the fielder and the batter are out.

[Yehuda57]

Where is the clarification, I didn't see it.
I posted the rule, and it says the umps were correct.

Chicago manager says they called him.

Even in the rule it says it is a judgement call.

[CountValentine]

Chicago manager says they called him.

LOL

Even in the rule it says it is a judgement call.

See my edit. It was no-brainer.

[Yehuda57]

LOLSee my edit. It was no-brainer.

Your edit is the inf fly rule. The judgement call is the interference rule.

[CountValentine]

Your edit is the inf fly rule. The judgement call is the interference rule.

The first play you are saying he didn't interfere with him? You weren't saying he should not be out because the IFR was called?

[Yehuda57]

The first play you are saying he didn't interfere with him? You weren't saying he should not be out because the IFR was called?

I'm saying interference is a judgement call. The umps should use their judgement and not call interference on an infield fly when the out is called regardless and if it is unintentional, and especially if the player was trying to get to the bag (that is a problem with the rule that should be fixed regardless).

If the guy interferes on purpose, even on an infield fly, call him out.

[CountValentine]

I'm saying interference is a judgement call.

Correct

The umps should use their judgement and not call interference on an infield fly when the out is called regardless and if it is unintentional, and especially if the player was trying to get to the bag (that is a problem with the rule that should be fixed regardless).

Wrong
IFR has no bearing on interference. If there is interference, you call it.

[Yehuda57]

CorrectWrong
IFR has no bearing on interference. If there is interference, you call it.

https://www.si.com/fannation/mlb/fastball/news/report-mlb-admits-umpires-made-mistake-interference-infield-fly-call-at-end-of-chicago-white-sox-baltimore-orioles-game-01hyp4nf1vb1