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Re: MLB
« Reply #2480 on: November 01, 2017, 02:45:27 PM »
Link to the play you are referring to?

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Re: MLB
« Reply #2481 on: November 01, 2017, 02:53:43 PM »
Without an errant throw he is out and everyone is saying "why did he run".

Sorry, I was being sarcastic. And no need to link to the play. I see it every night in my nightmares.

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Re: MLB
« Reply #2482 on: November 01, 2017, 02:54:58 PM »

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Re: MLB
« Reply #2483 on: November 01, 2017, 02:55:34 PM »
Sorry, I was being sarcastic. And no need to link to the play. I see it every night in my nightmares.
Cain stealing second should have gave it away but I missed that.
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2484 on: November 01, 2017, 03:00:42 PM »
Cain stealing second should have gave it away but I missed that.
Stealing second took away the double play. And I don't think running on d'Arnaud was such a risk. Had he thrown out a single base stealer that series (or even during that entire post season)?
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2485 on: November 01, 2017, 03:02:06 PM »
Stealing second took away the double play. And I don't think running on d'Arnaud was such a risk. Had he thrown out a single base stealer that series (or even during that entire post season)?
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2486 on: November 01, 2017, 03:02:22 PM »
Stealing second took away the double play. And I don't think running on d'Arnaud was such a risk. Had he thrown out a single base stealer that series (or even during that entire post season)?

I hear that argument a little, but the odds of being thrown out were probably higher than a DP. But the way they made it into such a big deal "aggressive baserunning, blah blah blah" was the real stupidity of it.

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Re: MLB
« Reply #2487 on: November 01, 2017, 03:14:05 PM »
Anyway, back to the Hosmer play at the plate...
Mets mistake wasn't so much the errant throw by Duda. Hard to expect more from the least skilled defensive position on such a high stakes play. Major blame belongs to Wright. He should've let the short stop field the ball and held Hosmer at 3rd. Hosmer's only mistake is not getting further down the line as the play developed. He should've been 1/4-1/3 of the way home by the time Wright threw the ball rather than 10-15 feet.
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2488 on: November 01, 2017, 03:29:04 PM »
Anyway, back to the Hosmer play at the plate...
Mets mistake wasn't so much the errant throw by Duda. Hard to expect more from the least skilled defensive position on such a high stakes play. Major blame belongs to Wright. He should've let the short stop field the ball and held Hosmer at 3rd. Hosmer's only mistake is not getting further down the line as the play developed. He should've been 1/4-1/3 of the way home by the time Wright threw the ball rather than 10-15 feet.
Agreed on the point about Hosmer - he should have never let there been a throw to first. He should have been in a position where he forced Wright to hold him.

While you may be technically correct about Wright - hard to lay blame. Third basemen are taught from little league to play every ball they can. They have a much easier play at first base because your momentum is taking you towards first base.
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2489 on: November 01, 2017, 03:30:15 PM »
Anyway, back to the Hosmer play at the plate...
Mets mistake wasn't so much the errant throw by Duda. Hard to expect more from the least skilled defensive position on such a high stakes play. Major blame belongs to Wright. He should've let the short stop field the ball and held Hosmer at 3rd. Hosmer's only mistake is not getting further down the line as the play developed. He should've been 1/4-1/3 of the way home by the time Wright threw the ball rather than 10-15 feet.
No way could the 3rd basemen know the SS was going to get it. The runner should have been so far down the line to force the 3rd basement not to throw to first.
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2490 on: November 01, 2017, 03:32:41 PM »
Agreed on the point about Hosmer - he should have never let there been a throw to first. He should have been in a position where he forced Wright to hold him.

While you may be technically correct about Wright - hard to lay blame. Third basemen are taught from little league to play every ball they can. They have a much easier play at first base because your momentum is taking you towards first base.
No way could the 3rd basemen know the SS was going to get it. The runner should have been so far down the line to force the 3rd basement not to throw to first.
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« Reply #2491 on: November 01, 2017, 03:40:47 PM »
ETA: Lets not forget the bonehead play to let the game be tied!!!

No way could the 3rd basemen know the SS was going to get it. The runner should have been so far down the line to force the 3rd basement not to throw to first.



So what's boneheaded about the play?

A. Wright Fielding the ball (apparently not in your opinion) and throwing to first.
B. Dudas bad throw
C. Hosmer running home
D. Hosmer failing to get farther down the line before taking off
E. None of the above
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2493 on: November 01, 2017, 03:46:32 PM »


So what's boneheaded about the play?

A. Wright Fielding the ball (apparently not in your opinion) and throwing to first.
B. Dudas bad throw
C. Hosmer running home
D. Hosmer failing to get farther down the line before taking off
E. None of the above
B
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2494 on: November 01, 2017, 03:48:27 PM »
B
My daughter can make that throw left-handed!  :)
That's why she presumably doesn't play 1b. To take this conversation full circle:
NL 1b = AL dh
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« Reply #2495 on: November 01, 2017, 03:56:22 PM »
That's why she presumably doesn't play 1b.
Correct she plays a real sport, soccer!!!  :)

When we have soccer games and it is raining we always have parents calling and asking if we are playing. My standard answer is "of course we are playing. This isn't baseball."  :P
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Re: MLB
« Reply #2496 on: November 01, 2017, 04:24:34 PM »

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« Reply #2497 on: November 01, 2017, 04:26:45 PM »
Heard about him yesterday and that he picked dodgers for game 6. Who does he have tonight?? Not in there!
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« Reply #2498 on: November 01, 2017, 04:32:16 PM »
No way could the 3rd basemen know the SS was going to get it. The runner should have been so far down the line to force the 3rd basement not to throw to first.
If you listen to the broadcast, I think it was Verducci who said he would've wanted Flores call for the ball.

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« Reply #2499 on: November 01, 2017, 04:33:40 PM »
If you listen to the broadcast, I think it was Verducci who said he would've wanted Flores call for the ball.
Did he call for it?
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