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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3405 on: January 15, 2020, 06:16:34 PM »
was he the only player named in the report because he was the leader or because all the other players involved are still active?
Good question. I don't think that was clear.

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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3406 on: January 15, 2020, 07:50:29 PM »
Pretty sure because he's not active so he doesn't have the union to have his back, the league had all the leverage over him. That said per the original reporting (Drellich and Rosenthal) I believe he was described as playing a pretty vital role in setting it all up.
So, both maybe.

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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3407 on: January 15, 2020, 09:05:48 PM »
was he the only player named in the report because he was the leader or because all the other players involved are still active?

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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3408 on: January 16, 2020, 11:44:26 AM »
CC on fire on R2C2  ;D
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3409 on: January 16, 2020, 12:46:46 PM »
What I find interesting and under-reported is MLB's failure to foresee these issues when they introduced replay in 2014. They allowed teams to have replay rooms manned by staff and a phone in the dugout linked to that room but instructed them not to use it to crack signs and basically used the honor system and didn't enforce it for years. This is like giving a dog a bone and telling him not to eat it.
The only solution is what they finally introduced in post season 2018 and have had since - an MLB employee in the room keeping an eye on the team employees.  Assuming this works (and indications are it does) the mistake was not having this from the very beginning.

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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3410 on: January 16, 2020, 12:54:16 PM »
What I find interesting and under-reported is MLB's failure to foresee these issues when they introduced replay in 2014. They allowed teams to have replay rooms manned by staff and a phone in the dugout linked to that room but instructed them not to use it to crack signs and basically used the honor system and didn't enforce it for years. This is like giving a dog a bone and telling him not to eat it.
The only solution is what they finally introduced in post season 2018 and have had since - an MLB employee in the room keeping an eye on the team employees.  Assuming this works (and indications are it does) the mistake was not having this from the very beginning.
Yes. Same as the steroid era (banned but not tested for).

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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3411 on: January 16, 2020, 12:58:18 PM »
What I find interesting and under-reported is MLB's failure to foresee these issues when they introduced replay in 2014. They allowed teams to have replay rooms manned by staff and a phone in the dugout linked to that room but instructed them not to use it to crack signs and basically used the honor system and didn't enforce it for years. This is like giving a dog a bone and telling him not to eat it.
The only solution is what they finally introduced in post season 2018 and have had since - an MLB employee in the room keeping an eye on the team employees.  Assuming this works (and indications are it does) the mistake was not having this from the very beginning.
Maybe they looked at sign stealing as not a big deal?
What about baserunners stealing signs or stealing a base coaches signs?
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3412 on: January 16, 2020, 12:58:37 PM »
Maybe they looked at sign stealing as not a big deal?
What about baserunners stealing signs or stealing a base coaches signs?
Always allowed.

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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3413 on: January 16, 2020, 01:04:06 PM »
Always allowed.
No rule against it but poor sportsmanship.
They should just ban sign stealing.
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3414 on: January 16, 2020, 01:08:26 PM »
No rule against it but poor sportsmanship.
They should just ban sign stealing.

Absolutely not. Part of the game, and an important part. The second you mix in cameras and people not on the field - that's the issue.
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3415 on: January 16, 2020, 01:11:10 PM »
And Beltran is out. Wow.
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3416 on: January 16, 2020, 01:12:49 PM »
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3417 on: January 16, 2020, 01:20:55 PM »
Absolutely not. Part of the game, and an important part. The second you mix in cameras and people not on the field - that's the issue.
How is getting an unfair advantage an important part of the game?
You throw the ball and I try and hit it. Not someone tells me what you are throwing and I try and hit it. The battle should be between the pitcher and the batter IMHO.

Maybe we can learn something from cricket about honesty?  ;)
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3418 on: January 16, 2020, 01:32:51 PM »
How is getting an unfair advantage an important part of the game?
You throw the ball and I try and hit it. Not someone tells me what you are throwing and I try and hit it. The battle should be between the pitcher and the batter IMHO.

Maybe we can learn something from cricket about honesty?  ;)

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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3419 on: January 16, 2020, 01:35:07 PM »
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