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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3441 on: January 16, 2020, 04:42:16 PM »
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/astros/2020/01/16/trevor-bauer-astros-cheating-buzzer-jersey/4491409002/
Does that mean that MLB half-assed the investigation or that these rumors about the buzzers and the ripping off the jerseys thing are all garbage?
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3442 on: January 16, 2020, 04:44:41 PM »
The player's were granted immunity for their cooperation. If Manfred is able to substantiate this, he will have grounds to cancel that immunity (and he will be super pissed). I think Altuve gets banned a year if they can prove this.
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3443 on: January 16, 2020, 04:48:15 PM »
The player's were granted immunity for their cooperation. If Manfred is able to substantiate this, he will have grounds to cancel that immunity (and he will be super pissed). I think Altuve gets banned a year if they can prove this.
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3444 on: January 16, 2020, 04:50:00 PM »
Does that mean that MLB half-assed the investigation or that these rumors about the buzzers and the ripping off the jerseys thing are all garbage?
The videos support the conspiracy but real evidence is needed.
He can just say I guessed the pitch (happens all the time) and I had to go to the bathroom.
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3445 on: January 16, 2020, 04:53:07 PM »
The videos support the conspiracy but real evidence is needed.
He can just say I guessed the pitch (happens all the time) and I had to go to the bathroom.
Except multiple sources are what got us to look at these videos in the first place. MLB being unable to find those sources is probably because of a half-donkeyed investigation.

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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3446 on: January 16, 2020, 04:59:40 PM »
The player's were granted immunity for their cooperation. If Manfred is able to substantiate this, he will have grounds to cancel that immunity (and he will be super pissed). I think Altuve gets banned a year if they can prove this.
As I understand it, (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong) the reason Cora is facing more severe disciplinary action was because he continued it over multiple years when he brought it to the Sox (if/when that gets proven). Why would Altuve only get 1 year, if the buzzer thing is substantiated, he's clearly been doing it for multiple years as well. Would the be able to re-open and extend  AJ Hinch's punishment?
Except multiple sources are what got us to look at these videos in the first place. MLB being unable to find those sources is probably because of a half-donkeyed investigation.
That was my point. It seems clear to me that if they specifically investigated the use of wearable devices and didn't find anything, either they didn't look very hard, or the videos we're seeing are telling us something else (and I have no clue what). Or (and again, I'm not sure of this) did the MLB investigation into the Astros only cover 2017, if so they apparently hadn't gotten that sophisticated back then.

Also this whole "Beltran's niece" thing is kinda weird.
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3447 on: January 16, 2020, 05:07:11 PM »
Cora is facing bigger suspension because he was the mastermind and brought it to a new team. Nothing to do with multiple years
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3448 on: January 16, 2020, 05:09:31 PM »
Reminder that Cora didn't even get penalized yet. You can be sure that whatever he gets is going to be worse than Hinch who got a year.

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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3449 on: January 16, 2020, 05:18:36 PM »
Cora is facing bigger suspension because he was the mastermind and brought it to a new team. Nothing to do with multiple years
I thought Beltran was the mastermind? It was just his idea and Cora ran with it?
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3450 on: January 16, 2020, 05:47:30 PM »

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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3452 on: January 16, 2020, 11:07:48 PM »
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3453 on: January 16, 2020, 11:08:18 PM »
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3454 on: January 17, 2020, 05:46:10 AM »
MLBs quick response tells me they already looked into this and couldn't substantiate it and they don't plan on reopening the investigation
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3457 on: January 17, 2020, 09:41:55 AM »

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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3458 on: January 17, 2020, 09:51:30 AM »
So good, and I don't even know the original
You need to get out more!  :)
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Re: MLB Master Thread
« Reply #3459 on: January 17, 2020, 10:12:05 AM »
You need to get out more!  :)

I really don't