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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2010, 05:15:34 PM »
IIRC, it's clear that zeh neheneh v'zeh lo choser does not apply to a situaton where the owner charges for such services, i.e. sneaking into a hotel room when it is empty to spend the night and then cleaning up after yourself. That would apply here.
Besides this is a case where the airline is chossur- the biz class section is most probably less enjoyable for others with an infant and the FA's have to spend more time dealing with the results.
Somebody mentioned getting an infant on with a "special tariff" fare- anyone follow up on this?

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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2010, 05:22:40 PM »
Let's take a poll: You're on an F ticket and it would be $1,700 to add an infant.  Is everyone here saying they would pay it rather than try a creative workaround?

creative workaround = booking a economy ticket and sneeking him into business?
I dont want to pay for a hotel room, so I will sneek into a empty room, is this also a creative workaround?

I am really surprised superflyer is still quiet on this! ;-)

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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2010, 05:28:33 PM »
Wow, a lot of posts since I started this. I can't believe I was so unaware. People don't realize this and suddenly 4 days before the flight, or worse, at check-in, they are forced to shell out a fortune of money for the 2-month old! That is insane that airlines get away with charging so much money! A $150 charge on an award or paid ticket I can understand, but how do you determine 10% of the price? What if when I booked my award tickets were $3,500 and now at check-in tickets are $7,000??

I think voices need to be heard about this issue. It's time the madness stops.
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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2010, 05:34:32 PM »
Eli

I agree with you, they should charge 10% of the miles or only the fees like miles and more. But there is no reason to wait and book the infant ticket only 4 days in advance or at the airport.
The airlines just claim, we dont do infant miles tickets so we have to book them the regular way.
I know its mad.
But that still does not justify the "creativ workaround" in my opinion.

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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2010, 05:36:43 PM »
IIRC, it's clear that zeh neheneh v'zeh lo choser does not apply to a situaton where the owner charges for such services, i.e. sneaking into a hotel room when it is empty to spend the night and then cleaning up after yourself. That would apply here.
Besides this is a case where the airline is chossur- the biz class section is most probably less enjoyable for others with an infant and the FA's have to spend more time dealing with the results.
Somebody mentioned getting an infant on with a "special tariff" fare- anyone follow up on this?
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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2010, 05:39:22 PM »
creative workaround = booking a economy ticket and sneeking him into business?
I dont want to pay for a hotel room, so I will sneek into a empty room, is this also a creative workaround?

I am really surprised superflyer is still quiet on this! ;-)
I don't see the 2 situations as being equivalent at all.

A better (but also imperfect) moshul would be that you are paying for a hotel room that limits you to 2 guests.
Do you sneak your baby in or do you fess up and pay?

Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2010, 05:41:36 PM »
It's also worth noting that the carrier doing the flying is not making anything on the infant ticket.
I believe that only the ticketing carrier collects and pockets the money in the case of an infant.

Which is why if AC books you on CO you only pay $100 but if CO books you on AC you may be on the hook for $1,000.
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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2010, 05:42:51 PM »
Wow, a lot of posts since I started this. I can't believe I was so unaware. People don't realize this and suddenly 4 days before the flight, or worse, at check-in, they are forced to shell out a fortune of money for the 2-month old! That is insane that airlines get away with charging so much money! A $150 charge on an award or paid ticket I can understand, but how do you determine 10% of the price? What if when I booked my award tickets were $3,500 and now at check-in tickets are $7,000??

I think voices need to be heard about this issue. It's time the madness stops.
Some airlines charge 10% of the current price, others always charge 10% of the full fare.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2010, 05:45:46 PM »
I don't see the 2 situations as being equivalent at all.

A better (but also imperfect) moshul would be that you are paying for a hotel room that limits you to 2 guests.
Do you sneak your baby in or do you fess up and pay?

If they charge for the baby and you sneek it in its gneiva. I dont care how you look at it. Jump on a train and dont pay, they are also not loosing out. Come on, if you want to do it, your choice, but lets not say its ok and call it a "creative workaround" You are fooling yourself to make yourself feel ok with it.



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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2010, 05:47:48 PM »
On Elal they forced us to pay 10% of a full fare one way business class $350. I had biz one way tickets through AA mileage. On the way back I found someone in coach on my flight and added the baby to their reservation and only paid 10% of that $90.

I just wanna add. Elal told me before the flight that they would only charge me for the price of a round trip business class ticket. At the airport they said they cannot do it. Later on I got $150 back from Elal the difference between 10% rt biz and oneway.
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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2010, 05:49:20 PM »
If they charge for the baby and you sneek it in its gneiva. I dont care how you look at it. Jump on a train and dont pay, they are also not loosing out. Come on, if you want to do it, your choice, but lets not say its ok and call it a "creative workaround" You are fooling yourself to make yourself feel ok with it.

If you are in business and your wife is in coach. Your kid is on your wifes ticket, would you say its Ok to switch off and take your kid with you to business.
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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2010, 05:54:04 PM »
If you are in business and your wife is in coach. Your kid is on your wifes ticket, would you say its Ok to switch off and take your kid with you to business.
What do you want to hear from me? The infant is booked in coach. I am sure nobody will mind, if the father holds the kid for a while if its quiet in business.
I really dont know what you are trying to get at with this question.

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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2010, 05:54:21 PM »
If you are in business and your wife is in coach. Your kid is on your wifes ticket, would you say its Ok to switch off and take your kid with you to business.
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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2010, 05:58:10 PM »
What do you want to hear from me? The infant is booked in coach. I am sure nobody will mind, if the father holds the kid for a while if its quiet in business.
I really dont know what you are trying to get at with this question.

You are not paying more money in order to be allowed to make noise in business class.

Its just the kid needs to be associated with a ticket. It doesnt matter with who.
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Re: Travelling with an infant on an award or paid ticket
« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2010, 06:11:55 PM »
Wow, a lot of posts since I started this. I can't believe I was so unaware. People don't realize this and suddenly 4 days before the flight, or worse, at check-in, they are forced to shell out a fortune of money for the 2-month old! That is insane that airlines get away with charging so much money! A $150 charge on an award or paid ticket I can understand, but how do you determine 10% of the price? What if when I booked my award tickets were $3,500 and now at check-in tickets are $7,000??

I think voices need to be heard about this issue. It's time the madness stops.
CO is 10% of current price.