Author Topic: Olam Haba For Sale  (Read 21862 times)

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #90 on: May 29, 2013, 12:00:31 AM »
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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #91 on: May 29, 2013, 12:02:09 AM »
That's the context which he is discussing. He explains it only works for future olam haba-as you are helping him be oved hashem and have a shutfus in his avodah

Interesting. So no way to purchase someone's olam haba, even if one is willing to sell it?
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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #92 on: May 29, 2013, 12:05:35 AM »
Interesting. So no way to purchase someone's olam haba, even if one is willing to sell it?
That is what the beis yosef holds, and I think most poskim concur (I think everyone agrees on stuff on the past)
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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #93 on: May 29, 2013, 12:10:31 AM »
Interesting. So no way to purchase someone's olam haba, even if one is willing to sell it?
Olam Haba is a reward. And you know by now that its against the T & C to sell rewards...
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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #94 on: May 29, 2013, 12:16:40 AM »
Olam Haba is a reward. And you know by now that its against the T & C to sell rewards...

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #95 on: May 29, 2013, 12:25:28 AM »
Olam Haba is a reward. And you know by now that its against the T & C to sell rewards...

But the real Charadim know how to get around these loopholes, and even generate a side income from it...

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #96 on: May 29, 2013, 01:27:11 AM »
This is one of those things you don't play around with. It reminds me of the story of a town in Europe that had a infamous letz that would always make fun of everything in Judaism. During the holocaust when the nazis invaded that city, they rounded up the town. They took the Sefer Torah from the shul, threw it on the floor and pointed to someone in the crowd (the letz) to stamp on it. Everyone thought that of course he would especially now when he had a gun pointed on him. But he said absolutely not, and he was shot and killed right there on the spot. The rabbi of the community later said "If you only knew his share in Gan Eden".

Even the letz knew where to draw the line.

I really don't find this whole thing funny one bit.

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #97 on: May 29, 2013, 04:58:57 AM »
seems like its been removed

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #98 on: May 29, 2013, 05:09:08 AM »
This is one of those things you don't play around with. It reminds me of the story of a town in Europe that had a infamous letz that would always make fun of everything in Judaism. During the holocaust when the nazis invaded that city, they rounded up the town. They took the Sefer Torah from the shul, threw it on the floor and pointed to someone in the crowd (the letz) to stamp on it. Everyone thought that of course he would especially now when he had a gun pointed on him. But he said absolutely not, and he was shot and killed right there on the spot. The rabbi of the community later said "If you only knew his share in Gan Eden".

Even the letz knew where to draw the line.

I really don't find this whole thing funny one bit.
The idea of the story is mentioned in Tanya IIRC
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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #99 on: May 29, 2013, 07:17:30 AM »
The idea of the story is mentioned in Tanya IIRC
I'm not sure about the idea but the bluzhever rebbe said it over and its in the book

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #100 on: May 29, 2013, 07:36:56 AM »
You are correct, but this is not a new thing. Even in the beis yosef's time people were trying to do this
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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #101 on: May 29, 2013, 08:42:41 AM »
This brought back memories of this awesome true story of Reb Ahron Leib Shteinman selling part of his Olam Haba

http://www.revach.net/stories/story-corner/A-Contract-With-Rav-Shteinman/2048

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #102 on: May 29, 2013, 10:42:36 AM »
You are correct, but this is not a new thing. Even in the beis yosef's time people were trying to do this
It is in the gemora already. Sotah 21
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