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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #80 on: May 28, 2013, 08:22:02 PM »
If these people were serious they could probably sell the contract paper as a tangible good instead of "olam haba"
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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #81 on: May 28, 2013, 08:28:44 PM »
I would say most are relying on ebay taking it down
The worst thing that can happen if you don't go through with a buy is a bad review from the seller.

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #82 on: May 28, 2013, 09:27:33 PM »
I would pay him to take my gehenom instead!

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #83 on: May 28, 2013, 09:36:24 PM »
I would pay him to take my gehenom instead!
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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #84 on: May 28, 2013, 10:27:47 PM »
I would pay him to take my gehenom instead!

Nice! !

Then we'll really see if he believes.

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #85 on: May 28, 2013, 10:45:17 PM »
Just wondering...
If he gets dummy bidders to bid for him, that will jack up the price, but also shrink the portion.
Wonder if the fine print says how many days you have to claim the portion.

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #86 on: May 28, 2013, 10:57:07 PM »
This whole discussion is ridiculous. Olam haba is not a game. You can't pay someone to take your gehenom or buy someone else's gan eden. The beis yosef says anyone who tries to is mevazeh olam haba and has no chelek.
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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #87 on: May 28, 2013, 11:30:06 PM »

This whole discussion is ridiculous. Olam haba is not a game. You can't pay someone to take your gehenom or buy someone else's gan eden. The beis yosef says anyone who tries to is mevazeh olam haba and has no chelek.

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #88 on: May 28, 2013, 11:46:20 PM »
Yossochar and Zevulun?
That's the context which he is discussing. He explains it only works for future olam haba-as you are helping him be oved hashem and have a shutfus in his avodah
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« Reply #89 on: May 28, 2013, 11:51:25 PM »
wow!its realy going up... i saw earlier today at 600$!

Its up to 1.7 million on a new user http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=171048798860

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #90 on: May 29, 2013, 12:00:31 AM »
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #91 on: May 29, 2013, 12:02:09 AM »
That's the context which he is discussing. He explains it only works for future olam haba-as you are helping him be oved hashem and have a shutfus in his avodah

Interesting. So no way to purchase someone's olam haba, even if one is willing to sell it?
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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #92 on: May 29, 2013, 12:05:35 AM »
Interesting. So no way to purchase someone's olam haba, even if one is willing to sell it?
That is what the beis yosef holds, and I think most poskim concur (I think everyone agrees on stuff on the past)
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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #93 on: May 29, 2013, 12:10:31 AM »
Interesting. So no way to purchase someone's olam haba, even if one is willing to sell it?
Olam Haba is a reward. And you know by now that its against the T & C to sell rewards...
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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #94 on: May 29, 2013, 12:16:40 AM »
Olam Haba is a reward. And you know by now that its against the T & C to sell rewards...

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #95 on: May 29, 2013, 12:25:28 AM »
Olam Haba is a reward. And you know by now that its against the T & C to sell rewards...

But the real Charadim know how to get around these loopholes, and even generate a side income from it...

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #96 on: May 29, 2013, 01:27:11 AM »
This is one of those things you don't play around with. It reminds me of the story of a town in Europe that had a infamous letz that would always make fun of everything in Judaism. During the holocaust when the nazis invaded that city, they rounded up the town. They took the Sefer Torah from the shul, threw it on the floor and pointed to someone in the crowd (the letz) to stamp on it. Everyone thought that of course he would especially now when he had a gun pointed on him. But he said absolutely not, and he was shot and killed right there on the spot. The rabbi of the community later said "If you only knew his share in Gan Eden".

Even the letz knew where to draw the line.

I really don't find this whole thing funny one bit.

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #97 on: May 29, 2013, 04:58:57 AM »
seems like its been removed

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #98 on: May 29, 2013, 05:09:08 AM »
This is one of those things you don't play around with. It reminds me of the story of a town in Europe that had a infamous letz that would always make fun of everything in Judaism. During the holocaust when the nazis invaded that city, they rounded up the town. They took the Sefer Torah from the shul, threw it on the floor and pointed to someone in the crowd (the letz) to stamp on it. Everyone thought that of course he would especially now when he had a gun pointed on him. But he said absolutely not, and he was shot and killed right there on the spot. The rabbi of the community later said "If you only knew his share in Gan Eden".

Even the letz knew where to draw the line.

I really don't find this whole thing funny one bit.
The idea of the story is mentioned in Tanya IIRC

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Re: Olam Haba For Sale
« Reply #99 on: May 29, 2013, 07:17:30 AM »
The idea of the story is mentioned in Tanya IIRC
I'm not sure about the idea but the bluzhever rebbe said it over and its in the book