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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2013, 11:44:09 AM »
Fact is you only get richer by giving Maser
Is that true? Some people hold Maaser is not a halacha

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2013, 11:44:16 AM »
Do non Jews have to give maaser?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tithe
Is that true? Some people hold Maaser is not a halacha
Maaser Ksafim, yes.

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2013, 11:45:01 AM »
"Not all who wander are lost"

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2013, 11:46:18 AM »
Is that true? Some people hold Maaser is not a halacha
I'm not talking about halacha I'm talking about facts. Ppl who give Maser have much better success in business.
I'm thinking of it as a investment

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2013, 11:47:23 AM »
I'm not talking about halacha I'm talking about facts. Ppl who give Maser have much better success in business
I wouldnt say that is a fact. I know plenty of people who are very makpid on maaser and are not so successful

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2013, 11:47:50 AM »
According to Jewish law?
Prob not, but the Possuk in Breishis states that Malki Tzedek gave Avrohom maaser.

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2013, 11:48:31 AM »
I wouldnt say that is a fact. I know plenty of people who are very makpid on maaser and are not so successful
obviously not everyone giving Maser will be come multi... but success rate is much higher

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2013, 11:49:49 AM »
I wouldnt say that is a fact. I know plenty of people who are very makpid on maaser and are not so successful
How do you know how much worse off they would be had they not given. . .?

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2013, 11:49:58 AM »
obviously not everyone giving Maser will be come multi... but success rate is much higher
I know what you meant, but I disagree. Dont get me wrong I am very makpid on maaser I make sure to take off of every paycheck, but I dont think the success rate is higher. Its called Mazel!

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #49 on: May 29, 2013, 12:04:42 PM »
I wouldnt say that is a fact. I know plenty of people who are very makpid on maaser and are not so successful
You can argue on Chazal, but it doesn't change the facts
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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #50 on: May 29, 2013, 12:13:21 PM »
You can argue on Chazal, but it doesn't change the facts
Chazal say that someone who gives maaser is guarenteed to be more successful?

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #51 on: May 29, 2013, 12:15:32 PM »
Chazal say that someone who gives maaser is guarenteed to be more successful?
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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #52 on: May 29, 2013, 12:15:38 PM »
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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2013, 12:33:31 PM »
Aser Bishvil She'tisasher
How can that be said when there are people who are makpid on giving maaser and dont have money?

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2013, 12:39:22 PM »
How can that be said when there are people who are makpid on giving maaser and dont have money?
That's what the passuk says. What about ppl who do shiluach hakein and die?

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2013, 12:46:23 PM »
That's what the passuk says. What about ppl who do shiluach hakein and die?
Thats my point. of course if chazal says it it means something, but to take it literally? we cant understand exactly what they meant. Maybe Im wrong.
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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #56 on: May 29, 2013, 12:56:54 PM »
An interesting thing I once learned about Tzedakah. If someone asked for money it is our job to give him (if we can), but not our job to judge whether or not he is in real need of the money. If we give him money that he doesn't deserve ("smoke and fress papittos for 10 months of the year") then it is up to Hashem to take away that money. We don't need to play G-d and judge who is legit or not.
Halachikly you may not be allowed to give money to collectors at your door. As per the above mentioned halachas of who you should give masar to first. I know major communities where the rav assured giving mishulachim as the needs of your own community come first, and there are still poor and hungry people in their city.

Also I know for sure there is no halachik obligation to give to someone who comes to your door.

That's what the passuk says. What about ppl who do shiluach hakein and die?
There is a famous story of a person who's parents sent him up a ladder to send away the mother bird, the son fell and died. the simple explanation was those are 2 mitzvos that guarantee long life in the world to come...

@Jukahk88 And if they didn't give masar maybe they would be even poorer, success is obviously relative.
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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #57 on: May 29, 2013, 12:59:55 PM »
@Jukahk88 And if they didn't give masar maybe they would be even poorer, success is obviously relative.
True.

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #58 on: May 29, 2013, 01:07:39 PM »
+1 only on Purim were not supposed to question.
it says that on purim not to question but it doesnt say anywhere (to the extent of my knowledge) that the rest of the time you should question. maybe we should learn out from purim to be a little more giving

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Re: Who do you give Maaser to?
« Reply #59 on: May 29, 2013, 01:21:10 PM »
1. Halachikly you may not be allowed to give money to collectors at your door. As per the above mentioned halachas of who you should give masar to first. I know major communities where the rav assured giving mishulachim as the needs of your own community come first, and there are still poor and hungry people in their city.

2. Also I know for sure there is no halachik obligation to give to someone who comes to your door.

3. There is a famous story of a person who's parents sent him up a ladder to send away the mother bird, the son fell and died. the simple explanation was those are 2 mitzvos that guarantee long life in the world to come...

@Jukahk88 And if they didn't give masar maybe they would be even poorer, success is obviously relative.
1. There's tshuvos that Aniyei EY have din Anyei Ircha
2. Source?
3. That's also a Chazal