Master thread to help me with words/phrases.

[JTZ]

Youre really stretching it. You really dont know what the seder is?

I don't ask questions in this thread I know the answers to. It is not easy to remember all of them especially when you try to follow a thread you have little knowledge of.

ETA: I probably should have remembered that one.

[hvaces42]

I don't ask questions in this thread I know the answers to. It is not easy to remember all of them especially when you try to follow a thread you have little knowledge of.

Oh so please change the thread name to I need help with my memory...ginko biloba

[TimT]

That is the only time?

Its only the first 2 nights & it's not only the meal. The Haggadah is recited then.

[JTZ]

Haggadah?

Pesach same as Passover IIRC?

[Eliyohu]

Haggadah?

Pesach same as Passover IIRC?

Haggada is what's read the first two nights of passover (or pesach In hebrew) by the seder which besides for just a meal and matza its whole bunch of reading biblical & talmudic passages  regarding exodus from Egypt  the 4 questions which you may be  familiar with is in there

[ExGingi]

seder = ceremonial dinner?

Seder translates literally as "order". And in the current context is shorthand for "Seder Pesach" which is the order of customs and mitzvos (I assume you already know what that means) for the first night of Pesach (which is the Hebrew word for Passover).

The order is of utmost importance (the meal actually being one item out of 15 which are traditionally enumerated at the start of the Seder).

An old joke tells of a gentile that heard of the festive meal the Jews have on the first night of Passover, and insisted he wants to attend.

The evening began with drinking a full cup of wine, after reciting some blessing in Hebrew. Nice start, he thought. Next everyone went to wash their hands. Very good hygiene, he thinks. Expecting to break bread, he is instead served a tiny piece of onion. Strange appetizer, he thinks to himself, but recites the unintelligible blessing along with everyone else, dips it in salt water, and eats it. Next he sees the Matzos uncovered, and thinks that finally he will get to taste the special Passover food. The host takes out one Matza and breaks it. I guess we all get a piece, he thinks to himself, but is dismayed when the host just puts one half back under the other matzos, and places the other half in a bag and hides it away.

He doesn't know what to expect next, but quickly finds out that food isn't what comes next. Instead there's reciting of passages in Hebrew, some singing and discussions. Dipping fingers in wine, more reciting and singing, and then another glass of wine.

He's totally confused, but somewhat upset to find out that washing hands is next (he still remembers what he got after the previous washing). Next thing he knows, the host takes the matzos again, but this time everyone gets a (relatively large) piece. Nothing to put on the cracker? he thinks to himself, but eats it along with everyone else. Rather dry, he thinks, just when he's told to finish up quickly. I can use a cup of water now, he thinks, but none is offered. Next everyone gets some lettuce and raw horseradish. He tries to eat it along with everyone else, but gives up half way, all coughing and tearing. He says to himself, if they don't serve a normal meal next, I am out of here. But instead of getting to indulge on fish, soup or meat, he gets served a sandwich. To his dismay he discovers that this seems like the culmination of the prior experiences, those dry crackers with some lettuce and raw horseradish topping. He declines the sandwich and decides to leave, just to miss the festive meal that comes next.

[ExGingi]

Haggadah?

Shorthand for Haggadah shel Pesach. Literally = Telling of Passover.

It follows the Mitzvah (Exodus 13:8 ) of telling our children about Passover. The Hebrew verse says והגדת - vehigadeta you shall tell. Haggadah is from the same root and means Telling.

[aygart]

Most of the Passover words are easily found in Google with a much more extensive explanation than you will get here

[JTZ]

Seder translates literally as "order". And in the current context is shorthand for "Seder Pesach" which is the order of customs and mitzvos (I assume you already know what that means) for the first night of Pesach (which is the Hebrew word for Passover).

The order is of utmost importance (the meal actually being one item out of 15 which are traditionally enumerated at the start of the Seder).

An old joke tells of a gentile that heard of the festive meal the Jews have on the first night of Passover, and insisted he wants to attend.

The evening began with drinking a full cup of wine, after reciting some blessing in Hebrew. Nice start, he thought. Next everyone went to wash their hands. Very good hygiene, he thinks. Expecting to break bread, he is instead served a tiny piece of onion. Strange appetizer, he thinks to himself, but recites the unintelligible blessing along with everyone else, dips it in salt water, and eats it. Next he sees the Matzos uncovered, and thinks that finally he will get to taste the special Passover food. The host takes out one Matza and breaks it. I guess we all get a piece, he thinks to himself, but is dismayed when the host just puts one half back under the other matzos, and places the other half in a bag and hides it away.

He doesn't know what to expect next, but quickly finds out that food isn't what comes next. Instead there's reciting of passages in Hebrew, some singing and discussions. Dipping fingers in wine, more reciting and singing, and then another glass of wine.

He's totally confused, but somewhat upset to find out that washing hands is next (he still remembers what he got after the previous washing). Next thing he knows, the host takes the matzos again, but this time everyone gets a (relatively large) piece. Nothing to put on the cracker? he thinks to himself, but eats it along with everyone else. Rather dry, he thinks, just when he's told to finish up quickly. I can use a cup of water now, he thinks, but none is offered. Next everyone gets some lettuce and raw horseradish. He tries to eat it along with everyone else, but gives up half way, all coughing and tearing. He says to himself, if they don't serve a normal meal next, I am out of here. But instead of getting to indulge on fish, soup or meat, he gets served a sandwich. To his dismay he discovers that this seems like the culmination of the prior experiences, those dry crackers with some lettuce and raw horseradish topping. He declines the sandwich and decides to leave, just to miss the festive meal that comes next.

So the moral of the story is for the gentile to come late next time? 

P.S. Was a nice read.

[ExGingi]

So the moral of the story is for the gentile to come late next time? 

P.S. Was a nice read.

That story takes you through 10 of the 14 parts. Next 4 are: meal, eating the Matza that was hidden in part 4, blessing after eating, final praise (and most traditions other than Lubavitch add hymns).

[JTZ]

That story takes you through 10 of the 14 parts. Next 4 are: meal, eating the Matza that was hidden in part 4, blessing after eating, final praise (and most traditions other than Lubavitch add hymns).

Is 15 that you should try and celebrate Passover in Jerusalem?

[ExGingi]

Is 15 that you should try and celebrate Passover in Jerusalem?

Possibly. Though not in Jerusalem, but in Yerushalayim, as in: the time of true and complete redemption.

[Dan]

Dipping fingers in wine

Tsk tsk.

[ExGingi]

Tsk tsk.

I tried to make it universal  and after all, unlike yourself איך בין ניט קיין געבוירענער, נאר א געווארענער. And besides, the host in the story was wearing a kittel.

ETA : you didn't comment on the fact that the afikoman (wait until JTZ finds out what's served for dessert  ) was broken into no more and no less than 5 pieces.

[JTZ]

ETA : you didn't comment on the fact that the afikoman (wait until JTZ finds out what's served for dessert  ) was broken into no more and no less than 5 pieces.

#12?

[ExGingi]

#12?

Nah. It's worse (though in the times of the Temple was actually pretty good - and alluded to in a different thread).

Not to mention it has to be fully consumed within a short prescribed time, and many people are particular to consume it no later than a certain time (around midnight), and it's a real dessert, as in the grand finale of the meal, no eating or drinking (besides for two more compulsory cups of wine) is allowed after it.

[hvaces42]

I tried to make it universal  and after all, unlike yourself איך בין ניט קיין געבוירענער, נאר א געווארענער. And besides, the host in the story was wearing a kittel.

ETA : you didn't comment on the fact that the afikoman (wait until JTZ finds out what's served for dessert  ) was broken into no more and no less than 5 pieces.

Everyone is a געבוירענער you just dont know it.

[ExGingi]

Everyone is a געבוירענער you just dont know it.

די שאלה איז צי אזלינן בתר בכח אדער בתר בפועל.

[hvaces42]

די שאלה איז צי אזלינן בתר בכח אדער בתר בפועל.

Life's work is to make it בפועל

[ExGingi]

Life's work is to make it בפועל

Hence א געווארענער.