Author Topic: Master thread to help me with words/phrases. (Read 166001 times)

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #740 on:** April 05, 2018, 07:21:53 PM »

Quote from: Freecountry on April 05, 2018, 07:18:37 PM

when messiah comes Jews will live in Israel

WOW talk about living under a rock. Never heard that before.

as2 · « **Reply #741 on:** April 05, 2018, 07:22:48 PM »

Quote from: mmgfarb on April 05, 2018, 07:21:29 PM

...it's complicated

Exactly.

mmgfarb · « **Reply #742 on:** April 05, 2018, 07:23:13 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 05, 2018, 07:21:53 PM

WOW talk about living under a rock. Never heard that before.

The rock you live under is so big, you've gotten used to it and don't even realize it's there anymore

Freecountry · « **Reply #743 on:** April 05, 2018, 07:24:11 PM »

Quote from: as2 on April 05, 2018, 07:20:27 PM

Correct. Although I must say, there is a whole lot written about those days, and not tons of clear answers.

there are disagreements amongst the reshonim as to whether life will be the same or will things change such as diseases ceasing exist but that has nothing to do with gan eden

Definitions · « **Reply #744 on:** April 08, 2018, 01:22:59 AM »

The ramban in shaar hagmul goes through it all. From אות מט and on. It's on the sefaria app.

davidrotts63 · « **Reply #745 on:** April 08, 2018, 01:26:56 AM »

@aygart @ExGingi

aygart · « **Reply #746 on:** April 08, 2018, 01:29:13 AM »

Quote from: davidrotts63 on April 08, 2018, 01:26:56 AM

@ExGingi

FTFY

davidrotts63 · « **Reply #747 on:** April 08, 2018, 01:30:26 AM »

Quote from: aygart on April 08, 2018, 01:29:13 AM

FTFY

Quote from: davidrotts63 on April 05, 2018, 07:07:52 PM

I think this is more ExGingi style.

ExGingi · « **Reply #748 on:** April 08, 2018, 02:07:54 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 05, 2018, 06:55:40 PM

gan eden - Heaven for Jews?

Since I've been paged, I will comment, though I am not knowledgeable enough on the topic.

Before commenting on what Gan Eden is, I would ask you to define Heaven, since you are asking if it's the equivalent. It is my (very limited) understanding (or maybe even guess) that the Jewish definition(s) relating to afterlife, are very different than non-Jewish definitions.

In general, as mentioned above there are two meanings to Gan Eden, one being a physical place (which, based on my very limited and cursory reading on the topic, might be considered an "intermediary" "place" between the spiritual world/realm and the physical one, somewhat akin to the קדש הקדשים in the first Temple). The other being a totally spiritual/mystical meaning, which refers to the afterlife.

This

is indeed a vast discussion of the topic, which is also available here in a formatted version with subheadings.

Quote from: Definitions on April 08, 2018, 01:22:59 AM

The ramban in shaar hagmul goes through it all. From אות מט and on. It's on the sefaria app.

Unfortunately, couldn't find an English version of that, nor could I find much in English about this topic (did you try a Google search, which comes up with this, which I did not properly go through to verify that it doesn't contain anything which is counter to Jewish traditions/beliefs, but seems to give a very brief synopsis).

If anyone has the time to study the topic and post a meaningful English synopsis, I would start here, follow the footnotes and references and study them, specifically this, and possibly this.

yesitsme · « **Reply #749 on:** April 08, 2018, 02:42:35 PM »

try to search under trip reports, you might find someones TR with past experience.

whYME · « **Reply #750 on:** April 08, 2018, 11:47:14 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 05, 2018, 06:55:40 PM

gan eden - Heaven for Jews?

All philosophy and technicalities aside, I imagine in the context you're referring to this is basically correct.

Albeit with the caveat

Quote from: ExGingi on April 08, 2018, 02:07:54 PM

It is my (very limited) understanding (or maybe even guess) that the Jewish definition(s) relating to afterlife, are very different than non-Jewish definitions.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #751 on:** June 07, 2018, 04:36:21 PM »

YM"SH

yuneeq · « **Reply #752 on:** June 07, 2018, 04:40:18 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 07, 2018, 04:36:21 PM

YM"SH

His name should be erased.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yimakh_shemo

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #753 on:** June 07, 2018, 04:43:37 PM »

Quote from: yuneeq on June 07, 2018, 04:40:18 PM

His name should be erased.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yimakh_shemo

Also his name should not be mentioned. Today isn't Friday.

TimT · « **Reply #754 on:** August 02, 2018, 02:45:59 PM »

“Ben Mehager”- Viznitze einekel ?

ExGingi · « **Reply #755 on:** August 02, 2018, 02:57:30 PM »

Quote from: TimT on August 02, 2018, 02:45:59 PM

“Ben Mehager”- Viznitze einekel ?

Son of expatriate.

In context. Presumably a special exclusion to be exempt from Israeli army draft despite being an Israeli citizen.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #756 on:** August 31, 2018, 10:12:19 AM »

zrizin makdimin?

davidrotts63 · « **Reply #757 on:** August 31, 2018, 10:18:07 AM »

How did I know this was coming?

It comes from the phrase "zrizim makdimin limitzvos" which translates as the quick ones are first for the commandments.
So in short, well done for being quick.

whYME · « **Reply #758 on:** August 31, 2018, 01:09:23 PM »

Quote from: davidrotts63 on August 31, 2018, 10:18:07 AM

which translates as the quick ones are first for the commandments.

Well since this is the official thread for being pedantic, I don't think that's a good translation.

1. I believe zrizim is not so much a function of time, rather of attitude. I'm not sure what the right word is but maybe something like ambitious/dedicated/zealous?
2. makdimim is more like "hasten" than "are first." It's about you doing it right away, not about when you do it relative to others. (although in this case that was definitely a benefit)
3. I'll let @ExGingi comment on if commandments is good for mitzvos

davidrotts63 · « **Reply #759 on:** August 31, 2018, 01:28:44 PM »

Quote from: whYME on August 31, 2018, 01:09:23 PM

Well since this is the official thread for being pedantic, I don't think that's a good translation.

1. I believe zrizim is not so much a function of time, rather of attitude. I'm not sure what the right word is but maybe something like ambitious/dedicated/zealous?
2. makdimim is more like "hasten" than "are first." It's about you doing it right away, not about when you do it relative to others. (although in this case that was definitely a benefit)
3. I'll let @ExGingi comment on if commandments is good for mitzvos

I don't disagree, as I wrote I felt it was somewhat wrong, it's just one of those things that made sense in my head but is hard to put on paper

Topic Wiki

Author Topic: Master thread to help me with words/phrases. (Read 166001 times)