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New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« on: June 09, 2013, 07:50:01 AM »
There is a new scam that is really gaining traction, seemingly targeting the charedi community specifically (I'm assuming due to the widespread lack of business knowledge), where they are selling houses that can't be sold for even $1000, for $50k+.

Yes they are offering houses in Euclid for $50k+ (any Clevelander will actually laugh out loud when they hear that), and guaranteeing 10% return per year for the first 3 years, plus they are advertising an average of 16% return.

Rav Ahron Chodosh has asked my brother to be mefarsim this scam, and to approach the the Jewish papers to stop the ads, and start running ads warning the public about this scam. In addition, just today, a top law firm in Israel has tentatively agreed to take on the case pro bono, and start sending out C&D letters to anyone running these ads.

I doubt this will stop them, so if you know any Israelis that may be the type to get involved in something like this, please give them a heads up. Their sales pitch is quite convincing. I know a few intelligent people that were convinced.
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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2013, 08:13:44 AM »
how is this a scam? everyone should be doing their due diligence.

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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2013, 08:36:35 AM »
how is this a scam? everyone should be doing their due diligence.

How does that make it not a scam? If I sell the Brooklyn Bridge I didn't scam the guy because he should be doing due diligence? ???
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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2013, 09:27:38 AM »
How does that make it not a scam? If I sell the Brooklyn Bridge I didn't scam the guy because he should be doing due diligence? ???

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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2013, 09:27:46 AM »
How does that make it not a scam? If I sell the Brooklyn Bridge I didn't scam the guy because he should be doing due diligence? ???
if you started selling bridges across america, i would not warn people not to buy from you

at some point, when something is so outrageous, i would think it wouldnt be classified as a scam. but i might be wrong

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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2013, 09:34:50 AM »
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Shall I hang your post in my yeshiva?
I don't think your yeshiva is a target, but I have flyers on the behest of various askanim across the country. I can send them to you
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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2013, 09:47:24 AM »
if you started selling bridges across america, i would not warn people not to buy from you

at some point, when something is so outrageous, i would think it wouldnt be classified as a scam. but i might be wrong
Correct.  As the OP stated "the scam is gaining traction".

What's so hard to understand?  People aren't business minded and when they hear a good deal they jump in.

Generally speaking,  $50k for a house is a good deal. $990 for a house is the exception.

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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2013, 10:08:27 AM »
Generally speaking,  $50k for a house is a good deal. $990 for a house is the exception.
that is one of the most ridiculous and outrageous things ive heard in a while. there is no such thing as a "generally speaking" when it comes to prices of homes
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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2013, 10:17:00 AM »
I don't think your yeshiva is a target, bbut I have flyers on the behest of various accross the country. I can send them to you

Please do.

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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2013, 10:29:30 AM »
that is one of the most ridiculous and outrageous things ive heard in a while. there is no such thing as a "generally speaking".
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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2013, 11:23:08 AM »
how is this a scam? everyone should be doing their due diligence.

People are dumb, and need to be spoonfed. I figure as a ddf'er you'd of realized this by now.

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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2013, 11:50:31 AM »
that is one of the most ridiculous and outrageous things ive heard in a while. there is no such thing as a "generally speaking" when it comes to prices of homes
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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2013, 12:06:48 PM »
Some will pay top $ to be near The Yeshiva.


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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2013, 12:12:32 PM »
Some will pay top $ to be near The Yeshiva.

Ummmmmmmmmm... nothing personal, but how is that even remotely relevant?!

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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2013, 12:15:56 PM »
Not sure how "new" this scam is. I actually met a guy a few years ago that told me a few 'nice' frum hidden from NY sold him some buildings in Downtown Detroit for a good price.  You literally couldn't give the buildings away for free.
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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2013, 12:20:39 PM »
Not sure how "new" this scam is. I actually met a guy a few years ago that told me a few 'nice' frum hidden from NY sold him some buildings in Downtown Detroit for a good price.  You literally couldn't give the buildings away for free.
They have now opened a store front from across from the main building of the Mir. They are advertising in all the papers. It's really starting to blow up.
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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2013, 02:33:58 PM »
Not sure how "new" this scam is. I actually met a guy a few years ago that told me a few 'nice' frum hidden from NY sold him some buildings in Downtown Detroit for a good price.  You literally couldn't give the buildings away for free.

I remember that one.

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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2013, 03:10:26 PM »
Can someone please enlighten me what kind of house are these "that you can't even give away for free" and that you can buy for 950.00??

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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2013, 03:42:03 PM »
Can someone please enlighten me what kind of house are these "that you can't even give away for free" and that you can buy for 950.00??
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Re: New Real Estate Scam Targeting Israelis/ American Israelis
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2013, 03:55:59 PM »
Any of the posters here who think it is a good deal, can pm me and I will see if I can arrange them a special sale. I think I can get you a nice house there for only 45k, which is a loss to me, but I am willing to do it to help my friends here.