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Edward Snowden...

Hero
31 (40.3%)
Villain
27 (35.1%)
Attention seeker
19 (24.7%)

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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2013, 03:55:56 PM »
... He isn't a villain either because he did something he believed to be correct...
That isn't the point, every villain believes he is doing the right thing to some extent.



However, it is always tough for one person to decide what is in the best interest of everyone else, and no one elected him to make that decision.  Just because he believed it to be wrong doesnt mean that it is or that informing everyone will be beneficial...
He is obviously not the only person to think he did the right thing, as evidenced by the EFF sticker on his laptop.


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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2013, 04:06:02 PM »
Anyone who thinks he's a hero can go to this site http://www.supportsnowden.org/

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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2013, 04:42:31 PM »
Not sure why hero is even an option in the poll.  >:(
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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2013, 06:07:17 PM »
I hope that you guys didn't miss out the WaPo article saying that 20 of the 25 slides that he provided weren't published because it would harm national security. Yes, WaPo.

He intended to harm this country.

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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2013, 06:43:27 PM »

He intended to harm this country.
Whether he harmed or not is up for is up for debate, but he definitely didn't intend to harm.

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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2013, 06:47:30 PM »
Whether he harmed or not is up for is up for debate, but he definitely didn't intend to harm.
??? And you know this because...? You know him personally?
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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2013, 06:56:44 PM »
Whether he harmed or not is up for is up for debate, but he definitely didn't intend to harm.

 And you didn't quote the first half of my post.

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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2013, 07:00:32 PM »
Can we add this option to the poll: "Give Seal Team 6 a call"
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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2013, 07:05:21 PM »
I am shocked by all the responses of he's a villain or attention seeker. Are all of you okay with the government knowing all of your phone conversations, emails, online chats, etc? This is wrong on so many levels. This man deserves a lifetime hero award.

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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2013, 07:10:09 PM »
I am shocked by all the responses of he's a villain or attention seeker. Are all of you okay with the government knowing all of your phone conversations, emails, online chats, etc? This is wrong on so many levels. This man deserves a lifetime hero award.

You are ignoring the fact that he intended to leak much much more but the media was responsible and didn't print them because it would have harmed national security. It's way more than this.

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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2013, 07:10:48 PM »
I am shocked by all the responses of he's a villain or attention seeker. Are all of you okay with the government knowing all of your phone conversations, emails, online chats, etc? This is wrong on so many levels. This man deserves a lifetime hero award.
Send him by house and I will give it to him.
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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2013, 07:17:42 PM »
Not sure why hero is even an option in the poll.  >:(
Can we add this option to the poll: "Give Seal Team 6 a call"
Send him by house and I will give it to him.
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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2013, 07:22:34 PM »
??? And you know this because...? You know him personally?
If someone speaks pro-privacy rhetoric, is defended by the likes of Assange and Doctorow, makes claims of defending constitutional rights etc. you can either take his claims at face value or you can assume (because you know him personally?) he's a mole planted by the reds using the EFF as a front.




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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2013, 07:29:23 PM »
Typical republican brainwashed banter.
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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2013, 07:33:40 PM »
I am shocked by all the responses of he's a villain or attention seeker. Are all of you okay with the government knowing all of your phone conversations, emails, online chats, etc? This is wrong on so many levels. This man deserves a lifetime hero award.
I agree they shouldn't have access, but in the end of the day who cares?
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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2013, 07:37:41 PM »
...but in the end of the day who cares?
Probably people who don't want to be snooped on...

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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2013, 07:41:34 PM »
Probably people who don't want to be snooped on...
...and people that are out to hurt this country.
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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2013, 07:47:58 PM »
Like him or not I admire his guts.

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Re: Edward Snowden Hero or Villain?
« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2013, 07:52:35 PM »
I agree they shouldn't have access, but in the end of the day who cares?

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