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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4455 on: November 30, 2020, 09:49:53 PM »
I was quoted a monthly payment and mileage for a lease. When the broker showed up with the contract it was much higher and more months. I refused to sign. Couple weeks later I get a statement in the mail reflecting the same. I asked for a copy of the contract and apparently they used my signature from another document I signed. I never signed this contract . What recourse do I have?

I had a similar story with a leasing company out of Lakewood.

They were being very nice and all. They made lots of promises. At the last minute I realized they changed the terms without telling me. When I pointed it out to them, they told me the vehicle was already on the way, being delivered an it's too late. I told them I would not accept delivery because they changed the terms. They threatened to take to Beis Din if I backed out.

I did not accept the delivery. Until car is delivered you are legally not bound. They did not take me to Beis Din because they would have lost.

Unfortunately, not all frum businesses are honest. And when they aren't, things get very sticky. Bring that you can't go to court, they know customer has very little leverage.

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4456 on: December 01, 2020, 04:18:34 PM »
I was quoted a monthly payment and mileage for a lease. When the broker showed up with the contract it was much higher and more months. I refused to sign. Couple weeks later I get a statement in the mail reflecting the same. I asked for a copy of the contract and apparently they used my signature from another document I signed. I never signed this contract . What recourse do I have?

Can you elaborate on this story a bit more and give more background information? Did you take the car?

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4457 on: December 01, 2020, 04:24:04 PM »
Can you elaborate on this story a bit more and give more background information? Did you take the car?
yes I kept the car. The broker said he would fix the contract by Monday. Than he said heís resolving the issue. Than I started receiving the statements. Than I called the bank and they emailed me a copy of the contract with my signature. Apparently they copied my signature off the lemon law paper I signed.

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4458 on: December 01, 2020, 04:46:43 PM »
yes I kept the car. The broker said he would fix the contract by Monday. Than he said heís resolving the issue. Than I started receiving the statements. Than I called the bank and they emailed me a copy of the contract with my signature. Apparently they copied my signature off the lemon law paper I signed.

If they copied your signature, it's easily identifiable by an expert.

The broker committed fraud. You obviously should not have taken the vehicle until the broker "fixed it", but you can still press charges. Depending on how much extra you are paying vs the original agreement, it's your decision to make whether you are comfortable pressing charges. At the very least, you should take him to a din torah and demand that he reimburse you for the added charges that you will incur over the course of the entire lease. Sometimes merely threatening to do it can work as well.

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4459 on: December 01, 2020, 04:50:22 PM »
If they copied your signature, it's easily identifiable by an expert.

The broker committed fraud. You obviously should not have taken the vehicle until the broker "fixed it", but you can still press charges. Depending on how much extra you are paying vs the original agreement, it's your decision to make whether you are comfortable pressing charges. At the very least, you should take him to a din torah and demand that he reimburse you for the added charges that you will incur over the course of the entire lease. Sometimes merely threatening to do it can work as well.
itís prob a copy, paste job so not really sure how that can be proved. The difference is higher monthly payment, longer lease term and lower monthly mileage 😊

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4460 on: December 01, 2020, 04:54:31 PM »
itís prob a copy, paste job so not really sure how that can be proved. The difference is higher monthly payment, longer lease term and lower monthly mileage 😊
Is there a paper trail (or phone recordings) of your correspondence with the guy since September (text / email etc.)? What about since your initial dealing with them?
Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box.

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4461 on: December 01, 2020, 04:57:18 PM »
Is there a paper trail (or phone recordings) of your correspondence with the guy since September (text / email etc.)? What about since your initial dealing with them?
unfortunately no :( it was all phone convo

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4462 on: December 01, 2020, 05:39:04 PM »
unfortunately no :( it was all phone convo
Make a cheshbon of how much extra you will pay over the course of the lease, including all taxes and fees vs the original agreement. Ask him for a check upfront for that amount. Explain that this is the least he can do under these circumstances, and that if he refuses, you will take any and all legal action allowed by law and halacha.

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4463 on: December 01, 2020, 05:41:10 PM »
You don't have any offer in writing?

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4464 on: December 01, 2020, 05:54:12 PM »
unfortunately no :( it was all phone convo
I have all my phone calls recorded with Callx. Never used them but it's something good to have.

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4465 on: December 02, 2020, 12:30:01 PM »
I had a similar story with a leasing company out of Lakewood.

They were being very nice and all. They made lots of promises. At the last minute I realized they changed the terms without telling me. When I pointed it out to them, they told me the vehicle was already on the way, being delivered an it's too late. I told them I would not accept delivery because they changed the terms. They threatened to take to Beis Din if I backed out.

I did not accept the delivery. Until car is delivered you are legally not bound. They did not take me to Beis Din because they would have lost.

Unfortunately, not all frum businesses are honest. And when they aren't, things get very sticky. Bring that you can't go to court, they know customer has very little leverage.

I think I may have used the same dishonest company in lakewood. Do you mind sharing the name?

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4466 on: December 02, 2020, 07:36:53 PM »
Iím seeing on RODO a good deal on a Hyundai ionic electric se. will I also be eligible for a NJ rebate? Does this car also take gas?

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4467 on: December 02, 2020, 07:45:18 PM »
Iím seeing on RODO a good deal on a Hyundai ionic electric se. will I also be eligible for a NJ rebate? Does this car also take gas?
Yes, but not as much as other cars since it's $25 a range mile and I ioniq doesn't have a 200 mile range

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4468 on: December 02, 2020, 09:47:55 PM »
Iím seeing on RODO a good deal on a Hyundai ionic electric se. will I also be eligible for a NJ rebate? Does this car also take gas?
Make sure the deal is *before* the state rebate.
Sometimes they include the rebate in the price.

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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
« Reply #4469 on: December 02, 2020, 10:05:36 PM »
Make sure the deal is *before* the state rebate.
Sometimes they include the rebate in the price.
Needs to be NJ dealer. Careful.