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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2013, 10:26:18 PM »
Looks like you don't know me.
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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2013, 10:27:34 PM »
Does your unlisted programs make you that rich?  :P
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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2013, 10:33:52 PM »
And where do you see jealousy?

This just proves:
rich people believe that the world is out to get them. 



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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2013, 10:49:52 PM »
I am glad to be wrong, but let me first clarify what I meant:

I am not saying that rich people do nothing good. Obviously there are many that do tones of charity and other good stuff.

However, these very people also get into nasty fights that ordinary people don't usually get in to. My logic behind this reasoning is that it is aggression that gets business people rich, (although they prefer to believe that it's brilliance).

In this sense, these sharks who get rich through business, (as oppose to artists, and entrepreneurs, who believe more in their product or service than the money it brings them) are no different than those who get rich through stealing: They both get rich through a method that puts them into a class of their own.



You can get to 5M perhaps by stealing but nobody gets to be super-rich that way

And yes, once the stakes are higher things get dirtier. People tend to try and take advantage...

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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2013, 10:56:18 PM »
My main point here is to express my astonishment with how rich people are viewed.

In our society, the rich are considered "successful," and elite, when many of them are sick people who got there, not while being sick, but through being sick. Yet these very people are honored for their money.



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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2013, 11:35:37 PM »
You can get to 5M perhaps by stealing but nobody gets to be super-rich that way

Nothing could be farther from the truth.
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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2013, 11:43:58 PM »
You can get to 5M perhaps by stealing but nobody gets to be super-rich that way

And yes, once the stakes are higher things get dirtier. People tend to try and take advantage...
+100
I actually deal with a very wealthy individual 20+ mil he lives a modest lifestyle and he is a really nice person.
Someone from his family screwed him over twice and although he won't deal with him anymore he still talks to him.
Just to prove that one can't generalise anything

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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2013, 11:46:57 PM »
You can get to 5M perhaps by stealing but nobody gets to be super-rich that way

And yes, once the stakes are higher things get dirtier. People tend to try and take advantage...
Not in America maybe but definitely elsewhere... See Russia for example...
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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2013, 11:47:48 PM »
Nothing could be farther from the truth.
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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2013, 11:48:16 PM »
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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2013, 11:48:48 PM »
Not in America maybe but definitely elsewhere... See Russia for example...

Precisely.

I'd venture to say that 80+% of the world's wealthiest people did some egregiously dirty and illegal things to get where they are now.
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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2013, 01:31:38 AM »
I know a few people who are richer than anyone here can imagine. And they are very nice
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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2013, 03:03:15 AM »
so i hear what hes saying. i know a couple who lives here in IL and the boys family is one of the wealthiest most well respected jews in NY (trying to be vauge) and he wont give a penny to his kids sitting and learning. i happen to know this guy is very self centered and is a jerk....yet the girls father just sold his company for 200+ mill and u woudl never even know it from the way they all act... so it just goes to show

but as PG stated, i know billionaires, yes, my FIL community is made of a few extremely wealthy ppl! there are ppl with hedge-funds, jewlery, dr's, lawyers and so on. i can say at least 2 in the billions, these guys have it all, yatchs, mansions all over the world, helicopters, private planes, and one a jewish camp :-) and yet, they are the nicest ppl i know! i think nitanel a big problem stems from the frum-ness of it all. what happens is, a lot of frum ppl get burned bec of all the organizations and such dont stop harassing them. and i think they just get sick of it all and feel everyone is after there money. but of course theres always the opposite which is very true! theres a frum yeshivish person who made it huge and all he does now a days is try to find property to build up certain areas to yeshicva life/working and has rent control so no one will take advt of the prices.
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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2013, 04:25:09 AM »
Dan is very nice ;)

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Re: Why Are (Most) Rich People Bad?
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2013, 01:10:57 PM »
I disagree with making such an overly generalized statement about rich people. I know many super wealthy individuals who are amazing on a personal level. Obviously there are other super wealthy individuals who are just terrible.

To me, if a person is super aggressive and not a mensch outside of their business affairs, it has nothing to do with being rich, it's because the person if fundamentally not a good person. What I think does happen sometimes though is you'll have people who hold themselves to one standard in their personal affairs, but behave differently in their business dealings. So they may get a (well deserved) bad rep because of how they act in their business, but they rationalize it thinking, I'm a good person but in business you do what you have to to make money.