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Meat:

   [th]RESTAURANT NAME[/th]
   [th]Rating[/th]
   [th]Description[/th]
   [th]Area - Address [/th]
   [th]Supervision[/th]
Tierra Sur At Herzog Winery in Oxnard 5/5 stars-The menu here is constantly changing but is always amazing.  The flavors you will try here are unlike any you will get at another kosher restaurant in the world.
Oxnard -

   
La Gondola4.5/5 stars
-Avocado eggrolls to die for (I had it and I didn't like it
 I can't eat Avocado when it's warm, I'm sure others can't too-Sillypainter).  Great Bread with garlic margarine on the house(agree-Sillypainter) Great Gondola Burger special for lunch with excellent pasta or a soup.  And the Chai Steak with Carmelized Steak Sauce and arguably the best kosher ribs out there.   I'm getting hungry thinking about this place!
Pico

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Shiloh's4/5 stars
-Great baby back ribs and peppercorn steak.  They serve steaks with a number of dipping sauces which is pretty cool.  Also had some delicious key lime pie.
I did have a bad experience here with really bad food though...and service can be poor here as well.
Beverly Hills Thai4/5 stars-It can get very crowded so it's best to make a reservation in advance.
Jeff's 3.5/5 stars-Homemade onion rings, homemade sausages, Steak Sandwich, Western burger, lots of good and greasy stuff here.
PKD (Pico Kosher Deli)3.5/5 stars
-Excellent Deli-style food along with equally good homemade onion rings. No Reservations, but rarely more than a few minute wait. closes at 9 PM.
Pat's3/5 stars
-Either you love this upscale steakhouse or you hate it.  I used to hate it until my brother became good friends with the bartender.  Now when I go back with him we're treated to a feast for a king! Don't miss the bread pudding dessert!
Shanghai2.5/5 stars
-LA hasn't had very good Chinese since Sholom Cuisine closed.  This place is decent though.
Harissa4/5 stars-Home of the LA-famous pretzle challah! They offer Middle Eastern/Mediterranean/North African cuisine.  They have lots of seating and long hours.


1. Tierra Sur At Herzog Winery in Oxnard
5/5 stars
-The menu here is constantly changing but is always amazing.  The flavors you will try here are unlike any you will get at another kosher restaurant in the world.

2. La Gondola
4.5/5 stars
-Avocado eggrolls to die for (I had it and I didn't like it
 I can't eat Avocado when it's warm, I'm sure others can't too-Sillypainter).  Great Bread with garlic margarine on the house(agree-Sillypainter) Great Gondola Burger special for lunch with excellent pasta or a soup.  And the Chai Steak with Carmelized Steak Sauce and arguably the best kosher ribs out there.   I'm getting hungry thinking about this place!

3. Shiloh's
4/5 stars
-Great baby back ribs and peppercorn steak.  They serve steaks with a number of dipping sauces which is pretty cool.  Also had some delicious key lime pie.
I did have a bad experience here with really bad food though...and service can be poor here as well.

4. Beverly Hills Thai
4/5 stars
-It can get very crowded so it's best to make a reservation in advance.

5. Jeff's
3.5/5 stars
-Homemade onion rings, homemade sausages, Steak Sandwich, Western burger, lots of good and greasy stuff here.

6. PKD (Pico Kosher Deli)
3.5/5 stars
-Excellent Deli-style food along with equally good homemade onion rings. No Reservations, but rarely more than a few minute wait. closes at 9 PM.

7. Pat's
3/5 stars
-Either you love this upscale steakhouse or you hate it.  I used to hate it until my brother became good friends with the bartender.  Now when I go back with him we're treated to a feast for a king! Don't miss the bread pudding dessert!

8. Shanghai
2.5/5 stars
-LA hasn't had very good Chinese since Sholom Cuisine closed.  This place is decent though.

9. Harissa
4/5 stars
-Home of the LA-famous pretzle challah! They offer Middle Eastern/Mediterranean/North African cuisine.  They have lots of seating and long hours.

Milk/Parve:

1. Fish Grill
4.5/5 stars
-The best fish you'll ever have, period.  I'm not such a fish person, but their Grilled Salmon on Angel Hair Pasta with a huge order of well-seasoned fries...YUM! Get the grilled salmon sandwich.

2. Milky Way Reopened, brand new place worth a visit
4/5 stars
-Steven Spielberg's adorable mom will come shmooze with you and show you his movie posters in the back.  Cheeze blintzes and lemon tart are awesome. Chimichangas, potato latkes, and more all at prices that haven't been raised in decades.

3. Pizza Nosh (Agoura Hills)
4/5 stars
-Excellent pizza and Eggplant Parmesean, worth a stop if you're in the area.

4. Pizza Mayven
4/5 stars
-Good plain pizza and excellent fries, and that's about it.

5. Nagila Pizza
3/5 stars
-Good but pricey stuffed crust pizza, and that's about it. There are some big fans of their Naco's out there as well.

6. Trattoria Natalie
4.5/5 stars
-A trattoria is translated from Italian as a tavern, and that's what this restaurant feels like.  They have a cool on-table feature: its a paging device with three bottons.  One botton calls for water, the other for the bill, the last for a waiter.  The food is very good and prices not too expensive.

7. Meshuga for Sushi/Meshuga for Sushi 2
4/5
-With 3 locations (one in La Brea, one in Pico, and one in the valley), they offer great sushi at reasonable prices.  They have some space to eat in the restaurant.  They have long hours and a decent lunch menu.


IF you eat non-CY:
-Sweet Rose Creamery, on Beverly is Kosher and considered some of the best ice cream in LA by foodies http://www.sweetrosecreamery.com/, usually have 4 or 5 non dairy flavors
-Toppings Frozen Yogurt 349 S Robertson Blvd, good frozen yogurt, usually have a non dairy flavor or two


If you eat CY:
-Milky's at 1429 S Robertson Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90035 recently became kosher and is cholov yisrael.

Breakfast/Bakery:
1. Cafe Elite
4.5/5 stars
-Amazing cake/crumb donuts along with your usual breakfast food.

2. Schwartz Bakery/Circa NY
4/5 stars
-A great but expensive bakery.  The crumb cheese danish is a personal favorite, as is their wonderful Caramel cake and "kit kat" chocolate rice crispy bars.
They also now serve breakfast in their Pico and Fairfax location.  I had the combo Pancake+Waffle+Franch Toast meal with fruit salad that was very good.
On friday's only they sell raspberry cheese pockets - they always sell out of them early.

3. La Brea Bagel
3/5 stars
-Very good bagels with all kinds of toppings and other breakfast food.

4. The Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf - 7235 Beverly Blvd
4/5 stars
-The only coffee bean in LA that has Cholov Yisroel upon request and offers 3 Pas Yisroel bakery items from Delice; Chocolate Almond croissant, Custard twist, and chocolate croissant - also upon request.


SHABBOS TAKE OUT OPTIONS

1. Ralph's - both the Pico and La Brea locations have a kosher section with takeout
2. PKD: http://www.pkdla.com/soon.htm
3. Western Kosher on Pico: http://www.orderstart.com/westernkosher
4. Lieders La Brea: 129 N La Brea Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90036
5. Lieders Takeout, 8721 W. Pico Blvd, supposed to be excellent, check FB page for hours, (Shabbos Food LA: http://www.shabbosfoodla.com/)
6. Ariel's glatt has a nice selection - NE corner of La Brea and Beverly
7. Got Kosher has very ethnic style shabbat take out- lots of Moroccan food.
8. Elite Cuisine on La Brea/Detroit and Beverly has some nice options and the staff is really nice.


ATTRACTIONS

Attractions for the first time visitor (in no particular order):

1. Santa Monica (Pier, 3rd St. Promenade)
2. Hiking (Santa Monica Mountains, Hollywood Hills)(list of hikes sortable by distance)
3. Theme parks (Universal, Disneyland, Knotts, Six Flags Magic Mountain)
4. Beaches (Venice and Santa Monica are the most popular; Hermosa and Manhattan are the prettiest, Marina del Rey is the emptiest as it's in a residential area)
5. City Sites (The Grove, Hollywood & Highland Blvd, Rodeo Dr/Beverly Hills, Beverly Center)
6. Segway tours with www.segwow.com (tours are available in various locations)
7. TV Show Filmings (get free tickets to local TV shows being filmed) www.tvtix.com
8. Getty Center and Getty Villa.
9. Warner Bros Studio Tour
10. Mulholland Drive in Burbank (view of LA and the Hollywood sign)
11. Marina Del Ray Sportfishing or Whale watching (sometimes on groupon)
12. Griffith Observatory- Driveable Scenic View
13. LA Zoo

Attractions for the experienced visitor:

1. Santa Barbara, 2 hours north (40 min from Tierra Sur)
2. San Diego/ Coronado, 2 hours south
3. Big Bear/ Lake Arrowhead, 2 hours east
4. Hiking in the Santa Monica Mountains.
5. Secret Stairs by Charles Fleming- check out the book
6. Hollywood Bowl
7. Descanso Gardens and Huntington Library and Gardens
8. Calico ghost town, 2 hours east
9. OC County fair (July 12-Aug 11 2013)
10. Adamson House in Malibu
11. Griffith Park - Merry-go-round, Pony Rides, & wagon rides for kids, Horseback Riding for older children.
12. The Queen Mary. Out of commission passenger and WWII ship. Is currently a museum, and a hotel. You can explore the ship or stroll along the empty decks at midnight (closed to tours at night, but open to hotel guests) with a great view of the Long Beach Harbor. 45 minutes south of L.A.

This is a general list.  I can go into specifics if you're interested. HT: Yehoshua

Amusement Parks: Adventure City, Disneyland, California Adventure, Universal Studios, Knotts Berry Farm, Six Flags Magic Mountain, Legoland, Santa Monica Pier, Urban Air, Boomers

Water Parks: Raging Waters, Knotts Soak City, Six Flags Hurricane Harbor, Wild Rivers

Museums: Getty, Skirball, LACMA, La Brea Tarpits, Peterson Car, CA Science Center (space shuttle), Cayton Children Museum, Museum of Tolerance, Aquarium of the Pacific, Kidspace Children Museum

Hiking Trails: Griffith Park, Runyon Canyon, Caballero

Attractions: Rodeo Drive, Hollywood Walk of Fame, Adventure Lagoon, Sky Zone, Jump Club, Get Air, LA Zoo, Grove, Universal CityWalk, TopGolf, Lucky Strike Bowling, K1 Speed, Griffith Park Observatory, Travel Town Railroad, Madame Tussauds, Sunset Ranch Hollywood Horseback Riding, Beach, Marina Del Rey, Pump it up

HT:Thaber+Imayid2

Hotels within walking distance of shuls (under 2 mi.)

Pico
1. Mr. C (closest YOLA)
2. SLS
3. Residence Inn by Marriott (closest to Adas Torah or YICC)
4. Beverly Hills Marriott (closest to Adas Torah or YICC)
5. Best Western Plus Carlyle Inn (closest to Torat Chaim or Anshe Emes)
6. Intercontinental Century City (closest to YOLA)

Hancock Park
116northfuller.com
116northfuller.com - in the heart of Hancock Park / La Brea area. 5 minute walk to many shuls. 4 bedroom house with full kosher kitchen, hot plate, everything you need for shabbos.

Other areas
1. Andaz West Hollywood
2. W Westwood
3. Four Seasons, Beverly Hills
4. L'Ermitage


http://kosherconciergela.com/

HT: Dan

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« Reply #5500 on: May 11, 2015, 02:00:22 PM »
I agree. Definitely Ditmas over Natalie.
Hiw does ditmas compare to la gondola...was thinking of doing their lunch special.....

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« Reply #5501 on: May 11, 2015, 02:29:38 PM »
I agree. Definitely Ditmas over Natalie.
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« Reply #5502 on: May 11, 2015, 02:40:12 PM »
Hard to respect an opinion about a place you never ate.
Many people that have the same taste as me have been, and had nothing good to say. I'm not in a hurry to spend my money on a place like that.

Hiw does ditmas compare to la gondola...was thinking of doing their lunch special.....
IMO Ditmas is more unique, but La Gondola is more consistent. I would go with Ditmas.

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« Reply #5503 on: May 11, 2015, 02:56:46 PM »
I've heard more bad than good- inconsistent service, overpriced- the negative reviews have kept me from trying it myself.

I prefer good food over good service and the prices weren't all that different from other places

Obviously if you only have time for one meal you should go to Ditmas

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« Reply #5504 on: May 12, 2015, 01:08:40 PM »
If I plan on doing hollywood is there a point in doing the tour of the stars home, or is it a waste of time ?
Also, does anyone have a way to get discounted rates to warner bros studio?

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« Reply #5505 on: May 12, 2015, 01:32:49 PM »
Hiw does ditmas compare to la gondola...was thinking of doing their lunch special.....

ditmas has a great menu with excellent high quality food and cocktails -- most of it with an upscale twist. A unique experience, especially if you get to meet Chef Alex.

La Gondola has excellent tasting food (and amazing ribs!) but, you may be able to get that in the East Coast.  If you only can buy one meal in LA, i'd do Ditmas.
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« Reply #5506 on: May 12, 2015, 01:43:24 PM »
ditmas has a great menu with excellent high quality food and cocktails -- most of it with an upscale twist. A unique experience, especially if you get to meet Chef Alex.

La Gondola has excellent tasting food (and amazing ribs!) but, you may be able to get that in the East Coast.  If you only can buy one meal in LA, i'd do Ditmas.
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« Reply #5507 on: May 12, 2015, 01:58:04 PM »
If I plan on doing hollywood is there a point in doing the tour of the stars home, or is it a waste of time ?
Also, does anyone have a way to get discounted rates to warner bros studio?
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« Reply #5508 on: May 12, 2015, 02:06:11 PM »
ditmas has a great menu with excellent high quality food and cocktails -- most of it with an upscale twist. A unique experience, especially if you get to meet Chef Alex.

La Gondola has excellent tasting food (and amazing ribs!) but, you may be able to get that in the East Coast.  If you only can buy one meal in LA, i'd do Ditmas.
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« Reply #5509 on: May 12, 2015, 02:12:51 PM »
+1 was at Ditmas Sunday night, was excellent

+1
we like it every time we go. What did you order and what was excellent?
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« Reply #5510 on: May 12, 2015, 02:23:46 PM »
Ditmas doesn't do lunch,  unless something changed.
Natalie is expensive,  sometimes worthwhile,  sometimes not.  I've been a number of times. 
Got kosher is a good quick lunch option too,  and there are many others - PKD is excellent, burger bar is as well, mexikosher is nice and unique.

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« Reply #5511 on: May 12, 2015, 02:26:09 PM »
+1
we like it every time we go. What did you order and what was excellent?

where do i start..

LA pretzel- solid
House Pickled Vegetables - good
some susuage and pasta (cant find it online) - amazing!!
Tonys Fries - really great and different

Entree: all phenominal
Cote De Beuof (34 oz)
Rib Eye Special with short rib ON TOP

Dessert: knockouts
Bread Pudding
Choc Souffle with marshmallow fluff on top


yes i went with others, this wasnt only for me lol

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« Reply #5512 on: May 12, 2015, 02:39:10 PM »
where do i start..
LA pretzel- solid
House Pickled Vegetables - good
some susuage and pasta (cant find it online) - amazing!!
Tonys Fries - really great and different
Entree: all phenominal
Cote De Beuof (34 oz)
Rib Eye Special with short rib ON TOP
Dessert: knockouts
Bread Pudding
Choc Souffle with marshmallow fluff on top

yes i went with others, this wasnt only for me lol

+100 yes the cote de beuof, the fries, and the chocolate souffle are amazing each time.. Next trip will have to try the Rib Eye Special with short rib ON TOP 
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« Reply #5513 on: May 12, 2015, 02:39:10 PM »
I found warner bros studio for 49 dollars including parking on travelzoo. Is this a good price or can I get it somewhere even cheaper?

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« Reply #5514 on: May 12, 2015, 09:30:39 PM »
I am rethinking my decision to do warner bros. Will only be in la for 2 days, we don't know any current warner bros shows or movies is there a point in doing the tour?

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« Reply #5515 on: May 13, 2015, 12:11:28 AM »
I am rethinking my decision to do warner bros. Will only be in la for 2 days, we don't know any current warner bros shows or movies is there a point in doing the tour?
Not a must do if you're not a movies buff.

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« Reply #5516 on: May 13, 2015, 12:34:58 AM »
I've heard more bad than good- inconsistent service, overpriced- the negative reviews have kept me from trying it myself.
Their food is prob considered good, but definitely overpriced.

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« Reply #5517 on: May 13, 2015, 09:41:12 AM »
Not a must do if you're not a movies buff.
so what's a must do if I only have 2 days tbere? Definitely going to do santa monica and the pier and hollywood and rodeo drive

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« Reply #5518 on: May 13, 2015, 12:39:36 PM »
Anyone ever daven at YOLA on shabbos? Do they always have a minyan even in the summer? Is it more young Israel style? Or more like a typical Yeshivish/balebatish shul?

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« Reply #5519 on: May 13, 2015, 01:53:24 PM »
Anyone ever daven at YOLA on shabbos? Do they always have a minyan even in the summer? Is it more young Israel style? Or more like a typical Yeshivish/balebatish shul?
The latter.