George Zimmerman

[U-no-me!]

Is anyone following the trial?

[CountValentine]

Some here and there.

[U-no-me!]

CNN Broadcasts Zimmerman Social Security Number

[Ergel]

Am I the only one who can't figure out why in 2013 we can't bring in an expert and identify whose voice it is screaming?
It's getting kind of silly bringing in friends of each one swearing up and down it's one of their voices

[CountValentine]

Am I the only one who can't figure out why in 2013 we can't bring in an expert and identify whose voice it is screaming?

Maybe it is like lie detectors, not admissible?

Are you watching the whole trial? How do you think it is going?

[Ergel]

Maybe it is like lie detectors, not admissible?

Are you watching the whole trial? How do you think it is going?

I guess so. Pretty silly though-is the defense more believable because they brought eight people identifying zimmerman's voice? Maybe I should be called to the stand for my opinion?
I'm following a bit through the news so it's hard to tell. I think he gets convicted; and rightfully so, seems like he had it in for the kid.


Not so clear, http://www.experts.com/Articles/Voice-Identification-The-Aural-Spectrographic-Method-By-Thomas-J-Owen

[zale]

I'm following a bit through the news so it's hard to tell. I think he gets convicted; and rightfully so, seems like he had it in for the kid.

He had it "in" for him? Zimmerman was no saint, but he never before pulled his weapon during his neighborhood watch career. (Despite his many calls to 911).

This "kid" shows up after dark, (whom we now know was under the influence of marijuana) and gets into a fight with Zimmerman. Zimmerman felt threatened with his life and used his weapon. End of story.

Zimmerman probably should not have carried a weapon, but in no way is he guilty of murder or manslaughter. Everyone is entitled to defend themselves when feeling threatened with their lives. In fact, the police made this decision that very night and the case was closed until Al Sharpton decided that it was racism, and rallied the rat liberal race-baiters to his cause.

Zimmerman will walk free.

[jj1000]

Zimmerman will walk free.

I think I agree he will be found innocent, if the prosecution changes it's plea and tries for a lesser charge that may happen and he'll get a few years in jail.

either way expect some serious riots.

[CountValentine]

(whom we now know was under the influence of marijuana)

No we don't know that.

[skyguy918]

... In fact, the police made this decision that very night and the case was closed until Al Sharpton decided that it was racism, and rallied the rat liberal race-baiters to his cause...

...either way expect some serious riots.

This is the scary part. It doesn't matter to me whether he's actually innocent or guilty. But you'd hope that our justice system would be able to get it right, free from any outside influences. Obviously that already has not happened. I can't even say for sure which way it's been unfairly influenced more (though I'd lean toward saying it's been worse for Zimmerman) because there's so much noise on both sides.

[zale]

This is the scary part. It doesn't matter to me whether he's actually innocent or guilty. But you'd hope that our justice system would be able to get it right, free from any outside influences. Obviously that already has not happened. I can't even say for sure which way it's been unfairly influenced more (though I'd lean toward saying it's been worse for Zimmerman) because there's so much noise on both sides.

The "scary" part is that certain people who claim to "represent all people of color" are race-baiters that like to incite hatred and violence to make themselves popular.

Their first order of business was to make this about "race", which sent every liberal news outlet into complete ecstasy.

This was a sad story, and should never have happened, but to say that Zimmerman intentionally killed Martin is just plain stupid. This was not about race.

[zale]

No we don't know that.

Correction: we know that he had traces of marijuana in his system.

Do you know what else we know?

We know that he was kicked out of school.

We know that he perpetrated vandalism.

We know that he had a history of violence.

We know that he yearned to be a gangster.

Does that mean that he should have been killed? Certainly NOT.

But he certainly was not the perfect soul that the liberal media had at first made him out to be.

[henche]

I think he'll walk.

Frankly, I think the prosecutors are breaking the rules of conduct by bringing a case which they cannot possible believe beyond reasonable doubt. I think the judge is outrageous for not dismissing it on Friday when the prosecution rested, since no reasonable person could conclude guilt beyond reasonable doubt based on the evidence presented.

I'd like to see all of them go to jail.

Right along with the special prosecutor who was brought in to indict him--Angela Corey--who was just indicted herself for fraud in that very indictment.

Wait! Did you just say the prosecutor was indicted for fraud in indicting him? You mean the arrest warrant was based on fraudulent information? Exactly. So now don't we think the judge should dismiss the case, and should go to jail if she doesn't.

[Moshe123]

I think he'll walk.

Frankly, I think the prosecutors are breaking the rules of conduct by bringing a case which they cannot possible believe beyond reasonable doubt. I think the judge is outrageous for not dismissing it on Friday when the prosecution rested, since no reasonable person could conclude guilt beyond reasonable doubt based on the evidence presented.

I'd like to see all of them go to jail.

Right along with the special prosecutor who was brought in to indict him--Angela Corey--who was just indicted herself for fraud in that very indictment.

Wait! Did you just say the prosecutor was indicted for fraud in indicting him? You mean the arrest warrant was based on fraudulent information? Exactly. So now don't we think the judge should dismiss the case, and should go to jail if she doesn't.

Just amazing.

[meshugener]

Zimmerman will walk free.

I think I agree he will be found innocent,

I think he'll walk.

Wow, what do you guys know that I don't?

[zale]

Wow, what do you guys know that I don't?

Not sure that "know" is the correct word, because no one is a prophet, but here would be a good place to start:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-convicted-murder-manslaughter/story?id=19598422#.Udw4P_nVD0p

[henche]

Wow, what do you guys know that I don't?

The legal standard. Beyond reasonable doubt. We all saw the evidence. There's lots of doubt everywhere.

[henche]

http://www.sheriff.org/posts/post.cfm?id=bf1326e0-d238-0577-7446-a3a4ca5438d3

[CountValentine]

The legal standard. Beyond reasonable doubt. We all saw the evidence. There's lots of doubt everywhere.

Spoken like a true defense lawyer. 

[CountValentine]

Correction: we know that he had traces of marijuana in his system.

Do you know what else we know?

We know that he was kicked out of school.

We know that he perpetrated vandalism.

We know that he had a history of violence.

We know that he yearned to be a gangster.

Does that mean that he should have been killed? Certainly NOT.

But he certainly was not the perfect soul that the liberal media had at first made him out to be.

You just describe millions of teenagers. What does all this have to do with the facts of the case?

Let me ask you something. Is it possible for a prostitute to be raped?