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IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW REWARD BOOKINGS WORK BEFORE YOU TRANSACT.

1.   Marriott certificates can be used for any reservation that can be booked with points. To search for reward availability simply go to marriott.com and check the box to search "using points".
Marriott hotels are divided into categories. (Cheapest being category one)

What room types can you book?
You can book any STANDARD room that's available at marriott.com using reward points with no cap on the number of points. (standard room means it not an upgraded room. Every hotel lists their rooms differently, In some hotels, the standard room may even include suites)
To check, go to marriott.com and search for rooms. Make sure to check the option "Use Points/Certificates".

If it says:
Redemption - You can book that room no matter how many points it is
Redemption with Cash Upgrade - You can book however, the cert will cover the basic portion you will need to pay the additional cash upgrade fee.
Redemption with Points Upgrade - You cannot book using a certificate

2.   There are a few different types of certificates. Seven/five night certificates are the hotel portion of "Marriott travel packages" that the owner does not want or need anymore (google Marriott packages to learn more about them). Individuals many times buy these packages just to receive the airline miles and donít end up using the hotel portion of the package. There are also single night certs given to account holders for holding a Marriott brand credit card

3.   A 7/5night-night certificate must be used for 7 consecutive nights. The reservation cannot be split up.

4.   In order to hold the room, you need a credit card. Your card will be kept for incidentals and you won't be charged for the room.

5.   MUST be booked BOOK 30 Days in Advance. THIS IS A TECHNICAL GLITCH WHICH MARRIOTT CLAIMS TO BE FIXING, HOWEVER, ITS MORE THAN A YEAR THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE. In order to book with a certificate, reps must create the reservation as a points advance and then attach the cert. Marriott recently made a new rule that reservations made within 30 days arenít eligible for points advance. If the account, you are booking with has enough points to cover the reservation you can book it as regular points and have the rep detach the points and attach the certificate.

6.   Travel package certs must be booked over the phone. Single night certs can be booked online

7.   The certificate sits on the account holders account and the elite night credits are officially credited to them. There is no way to transfer those stays to your account.

8.   If you are the traveler do not call Marriott reservations. This reservation is in someone else's account and calling may result in his/her account getting audited and the reservation canceled.

9.   The certificate covers the cost of the reservation including tax but does NOT include any resort fees, parking, and incidentals (for example food charged to the room)

10.   It's not possible to entirely remove the certificate owner from the reservation but your name is added as a secondary guest and a special code is added (M8 code) to inform the hotel that this reservation is in fact gifted to you. The hotels are very much aware of this.

You should be able to check-in as you would to a regular reservation with your own ID. You will need to provide a credit card to cover any incidentals, resort fees, and parking fees if there are any.

11.   You cannot add your Marriott account number to the reservation and generally, the hotel will go by the status on our account (which may be silver or gold at the time of check-in) however, it depends very much on the front desk rep at the time of check-in


See post #5805 for a history of bid/ask on these 1/5/7 night certificates of different levels
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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2130 on: August 20, 2018, 08:06:08 PM »
Buying new Cat 5 (old 7-8) 7 night cert. Offering $400

old category 8 can be refunded for 135000 Marriott points.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2131 on: August 20, 2018, 08:51:51 PM »
Buying new category 5 certificate offering $500

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2132 on: August 20, 2018, 09:00:11 PM »
I am also looking for a new category 5 certificate and offering $500.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2133 on: August 20, 2018, 10:16:29 PM »
old category 8 can be refunded for 135000 Marriott points.
Looks like all the buyers are posting very low prices, If the sellers would only make the calculation you just made the market would really go up. I also have (old) category 1-5 and Tier 4-5 certs. I'm just waiting for the supply of the people that are selling it for a low price to dry up, to be able to sell for the real value.
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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2134 on: August 20, 2018, 10:23:24 PM »
Looks like all the buyers are posting very low prices, If the sellers would only make the calculation you just made the market would really go up. I also have (old) category 1-5 and Tier 4-5 certs. I'm just waiting for the low supply to dry up, to be able to sell.

I donít know how you figure that there is a low supply of old category 1-5 certificates.  There was an unprecedented run to buy these prior to the merger; there probably has never been such high supply. Not to mention that these now cannot be extended, Increased or decreased  in category, and will all expired in approximately one year.  As for the tier 4-5,  you probably have a much Stronger hand there.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2135 on: August 20, 2018, 10:29:26 PM »
I donít know how you figure that there is a low supply of old category 1-5 certificates.  There was an unprecedented run to buy these prior to the merger; there probably has never been such high supply. Not to mention that these now cannot be extended, Increased or decreased  in category, and will all expired in approximately one year.  As for the tier 4-5,  you probably have a much Stronger hand there.
Sorry I want clear I meant the supply of people selling it for a low price. You are 100% right that there was never just a high supply as now. Post fixed.
As far as tier 4-5 I think there is a very small supply, and it has real value. So I would wait a few weeks until everything becomes clear to sell them

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2136 on: August 20, 2018, 10:49:22 PM »
Sorry I want clear I meant the supply of people selling it for a low price. You are 100% right that there was never just a high supply as now. Post fixed.
As far as tier 4-5 I think there is a very small supply, and it has real value. So I would wait a few weeks until everything becomes clear to sell them

If I had to guess, and if nothing changes regarding the terms and conditions of these certificates as they are now stated, then I would Project that the category 1-4 certificates sell for  approximately $300 each  until the middle of next summer, at which point the price drops before the expiration.  At the end of the day, there is limited use to a category four certificate,  especially domestically, and many international hotels give second guest  A difficult time checking in the without the primary guest.

 However, I donít think that anyone knows what the final terms and conditions will be. I wouldnít be surprised if Marriott offers a short window of time to upgrade the existing certificates, at least buy one category. In addition, I also wouldnít be surprised if these are extendable by at least a year. So I agree with your plan to let the dust settle before selling.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2137 on: August 20, 2018, 11:25:35 PM »
If I had to guess, and if nothing changes regarding the terms and conditions of these certificates as they are now stated, then I would Project that the category 1-4 certificates sell for  approximately $300 each  until the middle of next summer, at which point the price drops before the expiration.  At the end of the day, there is limited use to a category four certificate,  especially domestically, and many international hotels give second guest  A difficult time checking in the without the primary guest.

 However, I donít think that anyone knows what the final terms and conditions will be. I wouldnít be surprised if Marriott offers a short window of time to upgrade the existing certificates, at least buy one category. In addition, I also wouldnít be surprised if these are extendable by at least a year. So I agree with your plan to let the dust settle before selling.
Interesting thing that your saying now, Because I just got a offer to sell my (old) category 1-5 for $475, and I'm still not sure if I should go for it....

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2138 on: August 21, 2018, 05:02:47 AM »
Interesting thing that your saying now, Because I just got a offer to sell my (old) category 1-5 for $475, and I'm still not sure if I should go for it....
if you decide not to sell,if you don't mind please pm me, I'll sell mine for 475
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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2139 on: August 21, 2018, 06:40:10 AM »
I don't understand how a new category 6 cert for 7 nights at minimum 50,000 points per night standard rate (up to 60,000 peak) would go down in value.

If you were to book 7 nights at 50,000 thats 350,000 points. At the super low end of valuation of .5 cpp, thats still 1750.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2140 on: August 21, 2018, 07:26:54 AM »
Most people don't want to stay somewhere for 7 nights so it doesn't have the full points equivalent valutaion.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2141 on: August 21, 2018, 09:14:58 AM »
Plus market forces are at play, so if more people have them than want them, prices will drop, regardless of their theoretical point equivalent.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2142 on: August 21, 2018, 09:31:35 AM »
I am also looking for a new category 5 certificate and offering $500.
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This certificate can be redeposited for 105,000 Marriott points if it was an original category 7 or  135K Marriott points if it was a category 8

If anyone is really selling for 500 , Ill buy three
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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2143 on: August 21, 2018, 09:37:02 AM »
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This certificate can be redeposited for 105,000 Marriott points if it was an original category 7 or  135K Marriott points if it was a category 8

If anyone is really selling for 500 , Ill buy three

Lol, I agree with you. But like you, if anyone is selling these for $500, I want to get in on that.

Based on a point valuation, (and assuming that any seller will receive the refund of 30,000 points before selling), the points value of these certificates will be 105,000. At the market rate of approx $0.0065 per point, we are talking about a points value of approximately $685. Factor a small discount because selling these certificates is easier than selling the points directly, and the floor on these will be $625-$65. The ceiling will be approximately $1,300, which is the cost of buying the points directly (but I expect the actual price to gravitate much closer to the floor than ceiling).

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2144 on: August 21, 2018, 11:23:03 AM »
Lol, I agree with you. But like you, if anyone is selling these for $500, I want to get in on that.

Based on a point valuation, (and assuming that any seller will receive the refund of 30,000 points before selling), the points value of these certificates will be 105,000. At the market rate of approx $0.0065 per point, we are talking about a points value of approximately $685. Factor a small discount because selling these certificates is easier than selling the points directly, and the floor on these will be $625-$65. The ceiling will be approximately $1,300, which is the cost of buying the points directly (but I expect the actual price to gravitate much closer to the floor than ceiling).


Ill buy all your category 5 new for 625-650