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IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW REWARD BOOKINGS WORK BEFORE YOU TRANSACT.

1.   Marriott certificates can be used for any reservation that can be booked with points. To search for reward availability simply go to marriott.com and check the box to search "using points".
Marriott hotels are divided into categories. (Cheapest being category one)

What room types can you book?
You can book any STANDARD room that's available at marriott.com using reward points with no cap on the number of points. (standard room means it not an upgraded room. Every hotel lists their rooms differently, In some hotels, the standard room may even include suites)
To check, go to marriott.com and search for rooms. Make sure to check the option "Use Points/Certificates".

If it says:
Redemption - You can book that room no matter how many points it is
Redemption with Cash Upgrade - You can book however, the cert will cover the basic portion you will need to pay the additional cash upgrade fee.
Redemption with Points Upgrade - You cannot book using a certificate

2.   There are a few different types of certificates. Seven/five night certificates are the hotel portion of "Marriott travel packages" that the owner does not want or need anymore (google Marriott packages to learn more about them). Individuals many times buy these packages just to receive the airline miles and don’t end up using the hotel portion of the package. There are also single night certs given to account holders for holding a Marriott brand credit card

3.   A 7/5night-night certificate must be used for 7 consecutive nights. The reservation cannot be split up.

4.   In order to hold the room, you need a credit card. Your card will be kept for incidentals and you won't be charged for the room.

5.   MUST be booked BOOK 30 Days in Advance. THIS IS A TECHNICAL GLITCH WHICH MARRIOTT CLAIMS TO BE FIXING, HOWEVER, ITS MORE THAN A YEAR THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE. In order to book with a certificate, reps must create the reservation as a points advance and then attach the cert. Marriott recently made a new rule that reservations made within 30 days aren’t eligible for points advance. If the account, you are booking with has enough points to cover the reservation you can book it as regular points and have the rep detach the points and attach the certificate.

6.   Travel package certs must be booked over the phone. Single night certs can be booked online

7.   The certificate sits on the account holders account and the elite night credits are officially credited to them. There is no way to transfer those stays to your account.

8.   If you are the traveler do not call Marriott reservations. This reservation is in someone else's account and calling may result in his/her account getting audited and the reservation canceled.

9.   The certificate covers the cost of the reservation including tax but does NOT include any resort fees, parking, and incidentals (for example food charged to the room)

10.   It's not possible to entirely remove the certificate owner from the reservation but your name is added as a secondary guest and a special code is added (M8 code) to inform the hotel that this reservation is in fact gifted to you. The hotels are very much aware of this.

You should be able to check-in as you would to a regular reservation with your own ID. You will need to provide a credit card to cover any incidentals, resort fees, and parking fees if there are any.

11.   You cannot add your Marriott account number to the reservation and generally, the hotel will go by the status on our account (which may be silver or gold at the time of check-in) however, it depends very much on the front desk rep at the time of check-in

12. Certs cannot be combined - e.g. you can't combine two 35k certificates to book a 60k room.

13. The "free fifth night" only applies to points bookings, not certificates.

See post #5805 for a history of bid/ask on these 1/5/7 night certificates of different levels
« Last edited by David61 on November 16, 2022, 12:09:46 PM »

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2160 on: August 23, 2018, 12:16:25 PM »
Buying new Cat 5 7 night cert for $500 obo. I read the valuation above but I have the points to make the stay already and if not for the 7 nights, I would probably just stay 5 nights, pay for 4 with the 5th night free and then travel somewhere else. As much value as the cert could be worth, I just don't know many buyers who want to stay 7 nights straight in any one location especially at the lower category hotels.
I get your reasoning, Your just missing 1 thing. That if anybody has such a cert. they can cancel it it and get back 105k MT/35k SPG. thats worth much more than the $500 your offering....

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2161 on: August 23, 2018, 12:24:55 PM »
I get your reasoning, Your just missing 1 thing. That if anybody has such a cert. they can cancel it it and get back 105k MT/35k SPG. thats worth much more than the $500 your offering....

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If you are serious about buying, I would offer no less than $750.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2162 on: August 23, 2018, 12:28:43 PM »
Buying new Cat 5 7 night cert for $500 obo. I read the valuation above but I have the points to make the stay already and if not for the 7 nights, I would probably just stay 5 nights, pay for 4 with the 5th night free and then travel somewhere else. As much value as the cert could be worth, I just don't know many buyers who want to stay 7 nights straight in any one location especially at the lower category hotels.

If you have the points to stay 5 nights at a new cat 5 property, 140,000 to be precise, and that's your plan B, I imagine that you can find someone to trade your points for a new 7-night cat-5 certificate. That way, you get 7 nights, and they get a nice return on their certificate. Sounds like a win-win to me. 

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2163 on: August 23, 2018, 12:49:33 PM »
Looking for one night certificate to be used tonight.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2164 on: August 23, 2018, 12:58:55 PM »
Updated Offer: Offering 140,000 Points for New Cat-5 7 night Cert :) Thanks for the help.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2165 on: August 23, 2018, 01:28:38 PM »
Updated Offer: Offering 140,000 Points for New Cat-5 7 night Cert :) Thanks for the help.

Except now you are not living up to your name  :-X ;D

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2166 on: August 23, 2018, 01:35:25 PM »
Except now you are not living up to your name  :-X ;D

There are ways around it...

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2167 on: August 23, 2018, 01:39:42 PM »
There are ways around it...

I wasn't talking about Marriotts T&C..

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2168 on: August 23, 2018, 04:42:02 PM »
Seeking multiple new cat 6 (old cat 9 & tier 1-3).
I have.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2169 on: August 23, 2018, 04:46:49 PM »

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2170 on: August 23, 2018, 04:55:41 PM »

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2171 on: August 24, 2018, 10:22:44 AM »
Has a new category 7 rate been established for a 7 night certificate? Even a range? I would like to book something, but I have no frame of reference for price.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2172 on: August 24, 2018, 11:53:08 AM »
Has a new category 7 rate been established for a 7 night certificate? Even a range? I would like to book something, but I have no frame of reference for price.

A new Cat 7 will require a Ritz tier 4-5 cert from before and is going to cost you as those used to cost 540k Marriott and weren't awesome redemptions and not a lot of people got them.  A lot of people rolled the dice on a Ritz Tier 1-3 (myself included) thinking they would work but they only converted to tier 6 (even though they say they can be used for up to 60k a night). Since the hotel you want should price out at 16k a night for a 5 night stay, you may be better off just buying the SPG points from someone (or using 240k Marriott points if you previously had 80k starwood).

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2173 on: August 24, 2018, 11:55:24 AM »
There are more than enough threads where you guys can have this discussion.
Some of us have this thread set to notify every time there is a reply, so please only post if you're buying/selling and at what price.
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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2174 on: August 24, 2018, 12:03:18 PM »
A new Cat 7 will require a Ritz tier 4-5 cert from before and is going to cost you as those used to cost 540k Marriott and weren't awesome redemptions and not a lot of people got them.  A lot of people rolled the dice on a Ritz Tier 1-3 (myself included) thinking they would work but they only converted to tier 6 (even though they say they can be used for up to 60k a night). Since the hotel you want should price out at 16k a night for a 5 night stay, you may be better off just buying the SPG points from someone (or using 240k Marriott points if you previously had 80k starwood).

I think he was looking to stay all 7 nights.

I don't know about a Tier 4-5, but a few pages ago someone claimed to have sold a a Tier 1-3 for $1,750. Seems a little high for me, but assuming it's correct, that would place a Tier 4-5 certificate into the low to mid $2,000's just based on the difference in points (which doesn't even account for the scarcity of the certificates).

Maybe someone should start a wiki for the going rates of these certificates now that the market is essentially new?

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2175 on: August 24, 2018, 12:05:28 PM »
BUMP.

Naf, these conversations are pertinent to the subject of the thread, especially considering that the market is now in flux due to the merger. I think it's more reasonable for you to disable the notifications for a few weeks, than to expect everyone to cease from discussing the pricing on this thread.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2176 on: August 24, 2018, 12:15:38 PM »
Its really not that difficult: If you want to buy one post what you are willing to pay. If no one contacts you raise your offer.

If you want to sell one, post your selling price if no one contacts you lower your price.

Or stick an OBO at the end and you will get offers. The 3-4 people discussing the price is not helping anyone and is just cluttering the thread.

You do not need to justify your price either. The values are not fluid and each person buying or selling can get a different value out of the certificate. One person can be desperate and willing to pay more. Or a seller can be desperate and want to sell for cheap.

So to recap just post your price and that is enough. No reason to clutter the thread. This is a buying/selling thread not a discussion thread.

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2177 on: August 24, 2018, 12:20:09 PM »
Naf, these conversations are pertinent to the subject of the thread, especially considering that the market is now in flux due to the merger. I think it's more reasonable for you to disable the notifications for a few weeks, than to expect everyone to cease from discussing the pricing on this thread.

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I think he was looking to stay all 7 nights.

I don't know about a Tier 4-5, but a few pages ago someone claimed to have sold a a Tier 1-3 for $1,750. Seems a little high for me, but assuming it's correct, that would place a Tier 4-5 certificate into the low to mid $2,000's just based on the difference in points (which doesn't even account for the scarcity of the certificates).

Maybe someone should start a wiki for the going rates of these certificates now that the market is essentially new?

Ah ok gotcha.  My point is how rare finding these Tier 4-5 certs would be.  If you are guestimating around 2k as the value (it may actually be higher because almost no one redeemed for a Tier 4-5 and those that did are most likely planning to use them themselves) he may be better off just buying the 120k startpoints (now 360k Marriott points) because I think a lot more people are sitting around with those balances than are sitting on certs with the intention to sell them...

And BTW I'm not cluttering this thread sharing this piece of advice because it will clutter the thread more for people posting for Tier 4-5 certs  (and then multiple posts with higher prices) that basically aren't for sale and also being a DDFer (in my mind) is trying to help people.  ;)

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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2178 on: August 24, 2018, 12:55:12 PM »
Hi I want to buy new cat 5, 7 night. Willing to pay $750 on it.

Please PM me if you are willing to sell.

Thanks.


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Re: Marriott Certs Sale
« Reply #2179 on: August 24, 2018, 01:44:50 PM »
Has a new category 7 rate been established for a 7 night certificate? Even a range? I would like to book something, but I have no frame of reference for price.

I didn't mean to cause a stir. I get this is a buy/sell thread and if in the future the correct thing to do is bring this to a hotel forum thread then I will do that, my apologies. I think my next question is valid for me to ask before I actually post a price. I am looking at a hotel that is a category 7, but when I put in the week I am looking for, I see the point total is 360k, I would have assumed it would be 420k (assuming this prices is 1 night free). Also, the week I am looking at is most definitely a peak week. Does this mean that I only need to purchase a category 6 certificate? I apologize for my ignorance, I haven't purchased a cert before.