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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Gurion_Airport#Airlinesanddestinations

Austria
Vienna Austrian Airlines, El Al, WizzAir (begins June 2018) Bluebird Airways

Belgium
Brussels Brussels Airlines, El Al, Ryan Air

BULGARIA
Sofia Bulgaria Air, El Al, WizzAir
Varna WizzAir

Canada
Montreal Air Canada (from May to Jan.), Air Transat (summer only)
Toronto Air Canada, Air Transat (begins June 2018), El Al
Many travelers from Canada connect via Europe popular airlines for connecting with good fares and convenient times include Turkish Airlines, British Airways, Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines, and Swiss.

China
Beijing El Al, Hainan Airlines
Guangzhou Hainan Airlines (begins in 2018)
Hong Kong Cathay Pacific, El Al
Shanghai Hainan Airlines
Shenzhen Hainan Airlines (begins in 2018)

Cyprus
Larnaca Arkia, Cobalt, Cyprus Air, El Al UP, TUS Air
Paphos Ryanair

Czech Republic
Prague El Al/UP, Smartwings,

Denmark
Copenhagen Norweigan Air Shuttle

France
Paris Air France, Arkia, ASL (begins summer 2018), easyJet, El Al, Transavia, XL Airways France
Lyon Transavia, easyJet (from spring 2018)
Bordeaux easyJet (from spring 2018)
Marseille El Al
Nice Air France (seasonal), Israir, easyJet (from spring 2018)

Germany
Baden-Baden Ryanair
Berlin easyJet (Schonefeld and Tegel), Germania (Tegel), El Al/UP (Schonefeld), Israir (Schonefeld)
Dusseldorf Germania,
Frankfurt El Al, Lufthansa
Hamburg Germania
Munich Arkia, El Al, Lufthansa
Nuremberg Germania
Stuttgart Arkia (seasonal), Israir (seasonal)

Greece
Athens Aegean Airlines, Alitalia, El Al
Seasonal and charter flights are available from many of the Greek Islands

Hungary
Budapest El Al/UP, Wizz Air
Debrecen WizzAir

Iceland
Rejkjavik WOW Air

India
Mumbai El Al
New Delhi Air India

Italy
Rome Alitalia, El Al, Vueling, Ryanair
Milan easyJet, El Al, Ryanair
Florence Vueling (summer only)
Naples easyJet
Venice El Al, easyJet
Verona El Al

Latvia
Riga Air Baltic, WizzAir

Lithuania
Vilnius  WizzAir

Netherlands
Amsterdam easyJet, El Al, KLM, Transavia
Eindhoven Transavia

Poland
Gdansk LOT, Ryanair
Katowice Wizz Air
Krakow Ryanair, Sun DOr (El Al)
Lublin -LOT
Poznan LOT, Ryanair
Rzeszow LOT
Warsaw El Al, LOT, Wizz Air
Wroclaw LOT, Ryanair

ROMANIA
Bucharest BlueAir, El Al, Tarom, Wizz Air
Cluj BlueAir, WizzAir
Craiova WizzAir
Iasi Tarom, WizzAir
Timisoara WizzAir

Slovakia
Bratislava Smartwings (seasonally)

South Africa
Johannesburg El Al
Many travelers from South Africa fly via Addis Ababa with Ethiopian Airlines

Spain
Barcelona Air Europa (seasonally) El Al, Norweigan Air Shuttle, Vueling
Madrid Air Europa, El Al, Iberia, Smartwings (seasonally)
Tenerife-South Smartwings (seasonally)

Sweden
Stockholm Norwegian Air Shuttle

Switzerland
Geneva easyJet, El Al
Basel easyJet
Zurich El Al, Swiss

Thailand
Bangkok Arkia (begins July 2018), El Al

Turkey
Istanbul Atlas Global, Pegasus, Turkish Airlines

United Kingdom

London British Airways (Heathrow), easyJet (Luton and Gatwick), El Al (Luton and Heathrow), WizzAir (Luton)
Manchester easyJet, Sun DOR (seasonal)

USA
Boston El Al
Los Angeles El Al
Miami El Al
New York City Delta (JFK), El Al (JFK and Newark), United (Newark)
San Francisco United Airlines, El Al (begins May 2019)
Las Vegas - El Al
Washington DC (Dulles IAD) - United

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https://www.touristisrael.com/full-list-flights-tel-aviv-israel/12331/

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1960 on: January 14, 2020, 07:50:41 AM »
They already have those flights for Cargo...
Cargo and passengers are 2 different things. (they're not flying passengers on the freight 747's...)

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1961 on: January 14, 2020, 08:27:34 AM »
passengers
*Self-loading cargo. FTFY.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1962 on: January 14, 2020, 08:36:41 AM »
*Self-loading cargo. FTFY.
Is that how low your self esteem is?  ;D

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1963 on: January 14, 2020, 08:44:32 AM »
That's what airlines call passengers.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1964 on: January 15, 2020, 03:31:45 AM »
https://m.ynet.co.il/Articles/5660246

Interesting that they giva a Hechsher even if they are open on shabbos, i thought that was like the red line. Embarrassing.

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1966 on: January 22, 2020, 08:39:18 AM »
TAP is doubling TLV flights and adding flights to North America
https://www.tapairportugal.com/en/media/press-releases/Press-Release-786

Tap only flies A321 Neo between tlv and lisbon. It looks like half the year has 1xdaily, and the other half has 2xdaily.  During 2xdaily season, one of the flights has a seat map of 2-2, and the other flight has 1-1-1-1 and 1-1 alternating. Is one flight fake J - they're all the same plane type?

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1967 on: January 22, 2020, 08:50:29 AM »
Tap only flies A321 Neo between tlv and lisbon. It looks like half the year has 1xdaily, and the other half has 2xdaily.  During 2xdaily season, one of the flights has a seat map of 2-2, and the other flight has 1-1-1-1 and 1-1 alternating. Is one flight fake J - they're all the same plane type?
One is fake J, one is real J. I believe the fake J is a operated by a CEO
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1968 on: January 22, 2020, 08:59:46 AM »
Their 321neo does not have real J. Only their 321LR planes have real J.

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1969 on: January 22, 2020, 09:23:42 AM »
Their 321neo does not have real J. Only their 321LR planes have real J.

I beleive LR is also a NEO, but the annoying thing is they're both called a321neo on the decription, and you only see the difference when choosing seats.

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1970 on: January 22, 2020, 09:32:58 AM »
LR is for long range. They usually put this plane on longer routes like to BOS.

I doubt they call it the same. Most people confuse neo with LR, had this in the past with experienced TA's mixing it up.

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1971 on: January 22, 2020, 10:37:22 AM »
https://m.ynet.co.il/Articles/5660246

Interesting that they giva a Hechsher even if they are open on shabbos, i thought that was like the red line. Embarrassing.

They are not making food on shabbos. They will be operating like a hotel. Nothing embarrassing about it.

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1972 on: January 22, 2020, 11:38:03 AM »
They are not making food on shabbos. They will be operating like a hotel. Nothing embarrassing about it.

Unlike a hotel, where people at least have the option to pay before or after Shabbos, even if the hotel will accept payment on Shabbos, in the airport no such option exists.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1973 on: January 22, 2020, 02:55:37 PM »
Unlike a hotel, where people at least have the option to pay before or after Shabbos, even if the hotel will accept payment on Shabbos, in the airport no such option exists.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1974 on: January 22, 2020, 03:45:48 PM »
Unlike a hotel, where people at least have the option to pay before or after Shabbos, even if the hotel will accept payment on Shabbos, in the airport no such option exists.
A hechsher like the Rabbanut has a tight balance to make. Their mission is to promote torah observance by making kosher food available to those who may otherwise eat non-kosher food. They also promote shabbos observance by having certain requirements. Sometimes those goals are contradictory. This leads to the distinction between restaurants and hotels. If they would fully restrict being open on Shabbos in a hotel that is very likely to push the hotels to not have any level of kashrus at all and everyone who comes to the hotel will end up eating non-kosher food unless they make the effort to go elsewhere. In a restaurant, they will either go to the kosher one or the non-kosher one. An airport is somewhat similar to a hotel. If they fully restrict shabbos then the establishment will end up with no kashrus at all and the establishment will be open with anyhow with Jews doing everything while if they allow the same leniencies as a hotel the establishments will at least have non-Jews doing most of the work and there will be the kosher food eaten.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1975 on: January 22, 2020, 03:58:25 PM »
A hechsher like the Rabbanut has a tight balance to make. Their mission is to promote torah observance by making kosher food available to those who may otherwise eat non-kosher food. They also promote shabbos observance by having certain requirements. Sometimes those goals are contradictory. This leads to the distinction between restaurants and hotels. If they would fully restrict being open on Shabbos in a hotel that is very likely to push the hotels to not have any level of kashrus at all and everyone who comes to the hotel will end up eating non-kosher food unless they make the effort to go elsewhere. In a restaurant, they will either go to the kosher one or the non-kosher one. An airport is somewhat similar to a hotel. If they fully restrict shabbos then the establishment will end up with no kashrus at all and the establishment will be open with anyhow with Jews doing everything while if they allow the same leniencies as a hotel the establishments will at least have non-Jews doing most of the work and there will be the kosher food eaten.

Indeed. It's a tough situation to be in, and if I am not mistaken I read somewhere that they consulted with R' Ovadia Yosef and got instructions to act as they did in the airport. Unfortunately there are very few poskim with ברייטע פלייצעס on the one hand, and יראת שמים on the other hand, that are willing rule on such delicate issues.

The only reason for my earlier post is to point out that there is a fundamental difference between a hotel and an airport restaurant in that the airport restaurant can't ever have Jewish customers on Shabbos that aren't unfortunately מחלל שבת, whereas in a hotel it is entirely possible to have people dining without any חילול שבת.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1976 on: January 22, 2020, 04:09:31 PM »
An airport establishment can be seen as primarily catering to non-Jews who aren't being mechalel shabbos.

Regardless, a certificate isn't an endorsement and should merely testify to the Kashrut of the product.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1977 on: January 24, 2020, 01:06:56 AM »
Which Caribbean island is the easiest to get to from tlv.  I see many of the islands take two stops and a total of 20 plus hours.  Anyone fly to the caribbean from here and can give me a recommendation.

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1978 on: January 24, 2020, 01:19:57 AM »
Which Caribbean island is the easiest to get to from tlv.  I see many of the islands take two stops and a total of 20 plus hours.  Anyone fly to the caribbean from here and can give me a recommendation.
LY to direct to MIA, then connecting to Bahamas?

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