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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Gurion_Airport#Airlinesanddestinations

Austria
Vienna – Austrian Airlines, El Al, WizzAir (begins June 2018) Bluebird Airways

Belgium
Brussels – Brussels Airlines, El Al, Ryan Air

BULGARIA
Sofia – Bulgaria Air, El Al, WizzAir
Varna – WizzAir

Canada
Montreal – Air Canada (from May to Jan.), Air Transat (summer only)
Toronto – Air Canada, Air Transat (begins June 2018), El Al
Many travelers from Canada connect via Europe – popular airlines for connecting with good fares and convenient times include Turkish Airlines, British Airways, Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines, and Swiss.

China
Beijing – El Al, Hainan Airlines
Guangzhou – Hainan Airlines (begins in 2018)
Hong Kong – Cathay Pacific, El Al
Shanghai – Hainan Airlines
Shenzhen – Hainan Airlines (begins in 2018)

Cyprus
Larnaca – Arkia, Cobalt, Cyprus Air, El Al UP, TUS Air
Paphos – Ryanair

Czech Republic
Prague – El Al/UP, Smartwings,

Denmark
Copenhagen – Norweigan Air Shuttle

France
Paris – Air France, Arkia, ASL (begins summer 2018), easyJet, El Al, Transavia, XL Airways France
Lyon – Transavia, easyJet (from spring 2018)
Bordeaux – easyJet (from spring 2018)
Marseille – El Al
Nice – Air France (seasonal), Israir, easyJet (from spring 2018)

Germany
Baden-Baden – Ryanair
Berlin – easyJet (Schonefeld and Tegel), Germania (Tegel), El Al/UP (Schonefeld), Israir (Schonefeld)
Dusseldorf – Germania,
Frankfurt – El Al, Lufthansa
Hamburg – Germania
Munich – Arkia, El Al, Lufthansa
Nuremberg – Germania
Stuttgart – Arkia (seasonal), Israir (seasonal)

Greece
Athens – Aegean Airlines, Alitalia, El Al
Seasonal and charter flights are available from many of the Greek Islands

Hungary
Budapest – El Al/UP, Wizz Air
Debrecen – WizzAir

Iceland
Rejkjavik – WOW Air

India
Mumbai – El Al
New Delhi – Air India

Italy
Rome – Alitalia, El Al, Vueling, Ryanair
Milan – easyJet, El Al, Ryanair
Florence – Vueling (summer only)
Naples – easyJet
Venice – El Al, easyJet
Verona – El Al

Latvia
Riga – Air Baltic, WizzAir

Lithuania
Vilnius  – WizzAir

Netherlands
Amsterdam – easyJet, El Al, KLM, Transavia
Eindhoven – Transavia

Poland
Gdansk – LOT, Ryanair
Katowice – Wizz Air
Krakow – Ryanair, Sun DOr (El Al)
Lublin -LOT
Poznan – LOT, Ryanair
Rzeszow – LOT
Warsaw – El Al, LOT, Wizz Air
Wroclaw – LOT, Ryanair

ROMANIA
Bucharest – BlueAir, El Al, Tarom, Wizz Air
Cluj – BlueAir, WizzAir
Craiova – WizzAir
Iasi – Tarom, WizzAir
Timisoara – WizzAir

Slovakia
Bratislava – Smartwings (seasonally)

South Africa
Johannesburg – El Al
Many travelers from South Africa fly via Addis Ababa with Ethiopian Airlines

Spain
Barcelona – Air Europa (seasonally) El Al, Norweigan Air Shuttle, Vueling
Madrid – Air Europa, El Al, Iberia, Smartwings (seasonally)
Tenerife-South – Smartwings (seasonally)

Sweden
Stockholm – Norwegian Air Shuttle

Switzerland
Geneva – easyJet, El Al
Basel – easyJet
Zurich – El Al, Swiss

Thailand
Bangkok – Arkia (begins July 2018), El Al

Turkey
Istanbul – Atlas Global, Pegasus, Turkish Airlines

United Kingdom

London – British Airways (Heathrow), easyJet (Luton and Gatwick), El Al (Luton and Heathrow), WizzAir (Luton)
Manchester – easyJet, Sun DOR (seasonal)

USA
Boston – El Al (March 2022), Delta (May 2022)
Los Angeles – El Al
Miami – El Al
New York City – Delta (JFK), El Al (JFK and Newark), United (Newark)
San Francisco – United Airlines, El Al (begins May 2019)
Las Vegas - El Al
Washington DC (Dulles IAD) - United

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2140 on: July 06, 2020, 09:09:59 PM »
What is their reasoning?
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2141 on: July 06, 2020, 09:16:48 PM »
Wierdest time to announce a new route. Only logic I can think of, is to put salt on LY's wounds. For crying out loud, the borders are still closed. EWR flights are barely half full. And a new route now?!
I guess it was an opportunity to beat El Al to it.
Not weird at all. LY is going to have to decide which routes to cut in the coming days.
UA just added ORD onto that list.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2142 on: July 06, 2020, 09:23:32 PM »
Not weird at all. LY is going to have to decide which routes to cut in the coming days.
UA just added ORD onto that list.
The question is why now? If they felt the route is profitable, they could’ve beat LY to it a year ago. Why wait till LY launches the route, and then try to force them out? Did LY sales help them decide it’s profitable? Or is it because AA delayed DFW launch?

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2143 on: July 06, 2020, 09:27:00 PM »
Wierdest time to announce a new route. Only logic I can think of, is to put salt on LY's wounds. For crying out loud, the borders are still closed. EWR flights are barely half full. And a new route now?!
I guess it was an opportunity to beat El Al to it.
Doubt it has anything to do with that. United has been making astronomical amounts of $ on ewr-tlv and tlv is a well positioned cargo hub. There's never been a better time to test a new route than now.

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2144 on: July 06, 2020, 09:30:29 PM »
It's everything combined.
AA delay, LY delay, cargo rates, etc.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2145 on: July 06, 2020, 09:37:24 PM »
It's everything combined.
AA delay, LY delay, cargo rates, etc.
Right, but not trying purely to spite ly. They're too big a company to play footsie with dysfunctional ly...

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2146 on: July 06, 2020, 10:12:03 PM »
Not weird at all. LY is going to have to decide which routes to cut in the coming days.
UA just added ORD onto that list.
Not weird to announce they will launch the route. But September?! Seriously?! How about March 2021?

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2147 on: July 06, 2020, 10:21:00 PM »
Right, but not trying purely to spite ly. They're too big a company to play footsie with dysfunctional ly...

And I guess they find TLV more profitable/attractive to them than AKL or CHC.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2148 on: July 06, 2020, 10:24:02 PM »
Not weird to announce they will launch the route. But September?! Seriously?! How about March 2021?
Hoping for RH/Sukkos traffic.
And they want to lock in the route and contracts before LY, exactly as they did successfully in SFO.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2149 on: July 06, 2020, 10:31:29 PM »
Hoping for RH/Sukkos traffic.

I wish I was as optimistic as you (and UA)....

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2150 on: July 06, 2020, 10:33:11 PM »
I wish I was as optimistic as you (and UA)....

Oh I don't think that's going to happen. But we can dream.
Either way, I'm guessing that cargo will help pay the bills.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2151 on: July 06, 2020, 10:34:32 PM »
I wish I was as optimistic as you (and UA)....
Not so far fetched.. there are lots of israeli citizens/people who can fly to israel in the us now. And all they need is one nice cargo contract like they have at ewr and the route will be profitable just off that.

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2152 on: July 06, 2020, 11:16:51 PM »
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/united/finally-united-will-launch-nonstop-service-chicago-tel-aviv/
Wishful thinking based on April/May numbers
Israeli hospitals can handle 600-900 patients in serious condition. It’s currently at 90 and predicted to reach 300 just with existing infections deteriorating. The government is frantically scrambling to enforce SD laws to avoid a total lockdown, which is nearly inevitable. There is no way Israel will open in September. Israeli hospitals overflow every winter
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2153 on: July 07, 2020, 06:38:58 PM »
Not weird to announce they will launch the route. But September?! Seriously?! How about March 2021?
I don't get it. The times for the route don't make so much sense for Shomer Shabbos traveler.
Leaving ORD and getting in to TLV on a Friday Afternoon + a Shabbos departure from ORD. Leaves one normal departure from ORD for the Shomer Shabbos traveler.
On the return by leaving on a Friday night - your cutting off a return.
Who exactly is United target market over here?

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #2154 on: July 08, 2020, 10:26:54 AM »
I don't get it. The times for the route don't make so much sense for Shomer Shabbos traveler.
Leaving ORD and getting in to TLV on a Friday Afternoon + a Shabbos departure from ORD. Leaves one normal departure from ORD for the Shomer Shabbos traveler.
On the return by leaving on a Friday night - your cutting off a return.
Who exactly is United target market over here?
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« Reply #2155 on: July 08, 2020, 10:27:40 AM »
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« Reply #2156 on: July 08, 2020, 11:31:33 AM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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« Reply #2157 on: July 08, 2020, 11:38:19 AM »
He really has no excuses now! Yalla!
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Can you say banned.  :-[

What did you do to earn it?
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What did you do to earn it?
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