Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions

[Dan]

And is this actually being enforced? Any reports from people arriving from DXB today?

[tavster]

And is this actually being enforced? Any reports from people arriving from DXB today?

According to the travel groups I follow, it's being enforced.
But I don't know anyone first hand who arrived from dxb today

[Baglach]

Af will use a330 and a350 Starting in March to TLV

https://passportnews.co.il/הבעת-אמון-אייר-פראנס-תפעיל-מטוסים-רחבי/

[tavster]

Af will use a330 and a350 Starting in March to TLV

https://passportnews.co.il/הבעת-אמון-אייר-פראנס-תפעיל-מטוסים-רחבי/

Wow! I don't recall them ever having anything besides the a320

[ExGingi]

Wow! I don't recall them ever having anything besides the a320

I guess it's a market that makes sense now, with not many other markets open.

[tavster]

I guess it's a market that makes sense now, with not many other markets open.

I never understood why they didn't have additional capacity of that line. But I'm assuming they know what there were doing.

[yandmk]

I guess it's a market that makes sense now, with not many other markets open.

It would always have made sense. They should have had 2 widebody rather than the 3  narrowbodies daily. More flight times is nice, but they were no competition to LYs 787. And definitely not in J.

[ExGingi]

It would always have made sense. They should have had 2 widebody rather than the 3  narrowbodies daily. More flight times is nice, but they were no competition to LYs 787. And definitely not in J.

Agreed.

[tavster]

And definitely not in J.

I remember a red eye flight on AF about 10 years ago and 3 Israeli boarded and obviously they didn't expect this kind of "J".
They almost hit the captain in the face as they were so upset

[yandmk]

This is also good for Delta. Until recently, DL loyalists, only had DL non-stop if they wanted real J all the way to TLV. Now they have VS and AF as well, both who also have decent award space to fill in where DL is lacking.
Oneworld always had BA and IB, and Star Alliance had AC, LX, TK and recently TP (in addition to UA nonstop)

[yandmk]

I remember a red eye flight on AF about 10 years ago and 3 Israeli boarded and obviously they didn't expect this kind of "J".
They almost hit the captain in the face as they were so upset

Fake J is proper theft IMHO. They generally charge the same price as if it was real J. And many unsavvy travelers book it without realizing what they're getting. Especially on a flight like CDG Tel Aviv which is 5+ hours.

[ExGingi]

I remember a red eye flight on AF about 10 years ago and 3 Israeli boarded and obviously they didn't expect this kind of "J".
They almost hit the captain in the face as they were so upset

Rightfully so.

[tavster]

Fake J is proper theft IMHO. They generally charge the same price as if it was real J. And many unsavvy travelers book it without realizing what they're getting. Especially on a flight like CDG Tel Aviv which is 5+ hours.

Completely agreed.

[ExGingi]

Fake J is proper theft IMHO. They generally charge the same price as if it was real J. And many unsavvy travelers book it without realizing what they're getting. Especially on a flight like CDG Tel Aviv which is 5+ hours.

And as some airlines have shown, it is possible to have a very decent real J even in a single aisle plane.

[tavster]

And as some airlines have shown, it is possible to have a very decent real J even in a single aisle plane.

IINM AF320 are only used on short distances, with the only exception being TLV

[yandmk]

And as some airlines have shown, it is possible to have a very decent real J even in a single aisle plane.

Yes. BA has a320s with lie flight J

[yandmk]

IINM AF320 are only used on short distances, with the only exception being TLV

Makes sense. To Beirut they always used a330. And we're neighbors.

[ExGingi]

Makes sense. To Beirut they always used a330. And we're neighbors.

Well, how long before the A word will be said in this discussion.

On a side note, fake J is just as European as it gets. It's the air travel version of Europeanism.

[m65]

Makes sense. To Beirut they always used a330. And we're neighbors.

i believe the short route tlv-beirut daily (nightly) flights dont have J in them,  and the showers i heard could be pretty uncomfortable (for the non pax down below)

[yandmk]

i believe the short route tlv-beirut daily (nightly) flights dont have J in them,  and the showers i heard could be pretty uncomfortable (for the non pax down below)

What are you talking about? Your message is very unclear.
TLV to Beirut doesn't exist FYI