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Vienna Austrian Airlines, El Al, WizzAir (begins June 2018) Bluebird Airways

Belgium
Brussels Brussels Airlines, El Al

BULGARIA
Sofia Bulgaria Air, El Al, WizzAir
Varna WizzAir

Canada
Montreal Air Canada (from May to Jan.), Air Transat (summer only)
Toronto Air Canada, Air Transat (begins June 2018), El Al
Many travelers from Canada connect via Europe popular airlines for connecting with good fares and convenient times include Turkish Airlines, British Airways, Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines, and Swiss.

China
Beijing El Al, Hainan Airlines
Guangzhou Hainan Airlines (begins in 2018)
Hong Kong Cathay Pacific, El Al
Shanghai Hainan Airlines
Shenzhen Hainan Airlines (begins in 2018)

Cyprus
Larnaca Arkia, Cobalt, Cyprus Air, El Al UP, TUS Air
Paphos Ryanair

Czech Republic
Prague El Al/UP, Smartwings,

Denmark
Copenhagen Norweigan Air Shuttle

France
Paris Air France, Arkia, ASL (begins summer 2018), easyJet, El Al, Transavia, XL Airways France
Lyon Transavia, easyJet (from spring 2018)
Bordeaux easyJet (from spring 2018)
Marseille El Al
Nice Air France (seasonal), Israir, easyJet (from spring 2018)

Germany
Baden-Baden Ryanair
Berlin easyJet (Schonefeld and Tegel), Germania (Tegel), El Al/UP (Schonefeld), Israir (Schonefeld)
Dusseldorf Germania,
Frankfurt El Al, Lufthansa
Hamburg Germania
Munich Arkia, El Al, Lufthansa
Nuremberg Germania
Stuttgart Arkia (seasonal), Israir (seasonal)

Greece
Athens Aegean Airlines, Alitalia, El Al
Seasonal and charter flights are available from many of the Greek Islands

Hungary
Budapest El Al/UP, Wizz Air
Debrecen WizzAir

Iceland
Rejkjavik WOW Air

India
Mumbai El Al
New Delhi Air India

Italy
Rome Alitalia, El Al, Vueling, Ryanair
Milan easyJet, El Al, Ryanair
Florence Vueling (summer only)
Naples easyJet
Venice El Al, easyJet
Verona El Al

Latvia
Riga Air Baltic, WizzAir

Lithuania
Vilnius  WizzAir

Netherlands
Amsterdam easyJet, El Al, KLM, Transavia
Eindhoven Transavia

Poland
Gdansk LOT, Ryanair
Katowice Wizz Air
Krakow Ryanair, Sun DOr (El Al)
Lublin -LOT
Poznan LOT, Ryanair
Rzeszow LOT
Warsaw El Al, LOT, Wizz Air
Wroclaw LOT, Ryanair

ROMANIA
Bucharest BlueAir, El Al, Tarom, Wizz Air
Cluj BlueAir, WizzAir
Craiova WizzAir
Iasi Tarom, WizzAir
Timisoara WizzAir

Slovakia
Bratislava Smartwings (seasonally)

South Africa
Johannesburg El Al
Many travelers from South Africa fly via Addis Ababa with Ethiopian Airlines

Spain
Barcelona Air Europa (seasonally) El Al, Norweigan Air Shuttle, Vueling
Madrid Air Europa, El Al, Iberia, Smartwings (seasonally)
Tenerife-South Smartwings (seasonally)

Sweden
Stockholm Norwegian Air Shuttle

Switzerland
Geneva easyJet, El Al
Basel easyJet
Zurich El Al, Swiss

Thailand
Bangkok Arkia (begins July 2018), El Al

Turkey
Istanbul Atlas Global, Pegasus, Turkish Airlines

United Kingdom

London British Airways (Heathrow), easyJet (Luton and Gatwick), El Al (Luton and Heathrow), WizzAir (Luton)
Manchester easyJet, Sun DOR (seasonal)

USA
Boston El Al
Los Angeles El Al
Miami El Al
New York City Delta (JFK), El Al (JFK and Newark), United (Newark)
San Francisco United Airlines, El Al (begins May 2019)
Las Vegas - El Al

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1140 on: May 31, 2018, 01:58:59 PM »
LY cancelled  double daily flight to EWR from Oct .28
I would assume this is due to the 767 being taken off earlier than planned.. they would have to make up for some of these routes (Boston, Johannesburg)

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1142 on: May 31, 2018, 02:50:48 PM »
Missed that..

How are they going to make up for the 767 routes? Use wet-leased planes?

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1143 on: May 31, 2018, 03:00:49 PM »
I would assume this is due to the 767 being taken off earlier than planned.. they would have to make up for some of these routes (Boston, Johannesburg)
Or just due to the new CEO who's such an idiot, he makes Smisek and David Maimon look good.
How can he judge lack of sales on a route (SFO) 6 months in advance of the first flight? Most flights don't start to fill until minimum 3-4 months before the flight....
Cutting TA commissions when it's no secret that they're the ones who have been pushing their product all along even when they had terrible aircraft etc...
Raising prices twice in a single month on their most valuable route, in addition to increasing change and refund fees...
Does this guy really think this will save El Al from their crisis? DL and UA exTLV are now $1000 (lowest fare), while El Al is $1089 (lowest fare). If the TAs aren't getting commissions, who exactly will be pushing their product over the competition?

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1144 on: May 31, 2018, 03:54:32 PM »
Does this guy really think this will save El Al from their crisis? DL and UA exTLV are now $1000 (lowest fare), while El Al is $1089 (lowest fare). If the TAs aren't getting commissions, who exactly will be pushing their product over the competition?

I don't think $1,089 vs $1,000 is uncompetitive. There's an old saying: when you compete on price you automatically lose. The key is to offer a better (even if perceived) value proposition. For some, LY offers it no matter what, but for many it's nothing but a bad deal. That's the problem they need to overcome IMHO.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1145 on: May 31, 2018, 04:05:13 PM »
I don't think $1,089 vs $1,000 is uncompetitive. There's an old saying: when you compete on price you automatically lose. The key is to offer a better (even if perceived) value proposition. For some, LY offers it no matter what, but for many it's nothing but a bad deal. That's the problem they need to overcome IMHO.
We're not talking about lowering prices to compete (even though, in the airline industry, it's all about price matching. Look domestic US). El Al was charging $1019 in the beginning of the month. Then it went $1059, and then $1089. (Not even gonna discuss the much bigger jumps in PE. At least over there, they don't have competition. [Delta, pleeeeeease come to the rescue...?]) Usually UA and DL follow them with the price increases/decreases. This time, they didn't. But if they think they will fill the 44m hole from the last quarter by raising prices and cutting commissions and routes and additional flights (to EWR), they're mistaken. I think this CEO is one big mistake (just MHO...)

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1146 on: June 01, 2018, 03:49:53 AM »
We're not talking about lowering prices to compete (even though, in the airline industry, it's all about price matching. Look domestic US). El Al was charging $1019 in the beginning of the month. Then it went $1059, and then $1089. (Not even gonna discuss the much bigger jumps in PE. At least over there, they don't have competition. [Delta, pleeeeeease come to the rescue...?]) Usually UA and DL follow them with the price increases/decreases. This time, they didn't. But if they think they will fill the 44m hole from the last quarter by raising prices and cutting commissions and routes and additional flights (to EWR), they're mistaken. I think this CEO is one big mistake (just MHO...)

Cutting commissions was the worst move for them most agents I work with try pushing elal because of their 5% once that's gone they will have no reason to sell LY product

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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1147 on: June 01, 2018, 06:41:25 AM »
I find the comments about TA's pushing ELAL due to their commissions stomach churning.
I never pushed ELAL over a better competitor and in fact I got many costumers to try other airlines that offered a better price/product.
Some of my costumers used to be die hard ELAL fans and now hardly fly with them.
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1148 on: June 06, 2018, 03:22:36 PM »
Not sure if this belongs here as it's only a connection option ex-TLV, but still something:


https://www.globes.co.il/en/article-el-al-to-codeshare-with-hong-kong-airlines-1001239806
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1152 on: June 12, 2018, 07:45:04 AM »
Im taking an 8:05 am flight ex-TLV on AF. When would be the earliest I could check my bags?
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Re: Ex-TLV Routes and Flights Discussions
« Reply #1153 on: June 12, 2018, 11:31:56 AM »
Im taking an 8:05 am flight ex-TLV on AF. When would be the earliest I could check my bags?
not sure about AF. But United is 3hrs before departure
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« Reply #1154 on: June 12, 2018, 12:51:55 PM »
not sure about AF. But United is 3hrs before departure

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